CP and hull rolls...

Jedi Skyler · Moff Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 8440

No problem. It looks like a fair way to grant such a request, and it's done in such a way so as to keep the players from succumbing to the desire to run around getting into battle after battle with no thought of the consequences. That way you AND they know that if they're in a battle, they NEED to be in that battle or they couldn't avoid it at all, and that will help make them more responsible players.

garhkal · Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:32 pm Post subject:

Been a while and we have had several new folks around here.. so bringing this back to the forefront to see if there are any new ideas..?
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Quetzacotl · Commander Joined: 29 Jan 2013 Posts: 281 Location: Germany

I also wouldn't allow it. The Pilot can spend CP for the dodge roll, Force users can spend CP if they use a force power that could help them in that case, but thats it.

If I would allow it at all, then CP would have to be spend on scale, meaning that for a Starship that has a scale of 4D (if I remember right) you would need 4 CP for 1D for the Hull... but I still don't see a reason why to allow it at all.

Tupteq · Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:22 am Post subject:

I don't allow spending CPs to following rolls:
- hull and shield code
- blaster/lightsaber and other not STR based damage
- rolls that use it's own skill values (e.g. homing missiles that have a fixed missile weapons code)

With bonus damage rule (good attack roll makes more damage) it works well, because even unsuccessful defense roll may reduce damage.

Fallon Kell · Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:46 am Post subject:

CRMcNeill · Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:27 am Post subject:

I take a middle path and allow characters to transfer CP to the ship between missions. In essence, rather than training to improve skills, the character spends time tinkering, repairing and cleaning his ship: loving it, as described in the Malcolm Reynolds quote above. The in game effect is to give the ship it's own CP pool which can then be spent on things like Hull rolls.
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Tupteq · Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:19 am Post subject:

DougRed4 · Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:33 pm Post subject:

Good ideas here! I haven't allowed it in the past, but I think I'll propose this to my group! Smile

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Zarm R'keeg · Commander Joined: 14 Apr 2012 Posts: 481 Location: PA

DougRed4 · Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject:

We liked this enough to do a variant on it:

Hull Rolls
Any involved pilots may use their own Character Points to affect their craft’s Hull roll, but only for defensive uses and maneuvers.
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garhkal · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:33 am Post subject:

DougRed4 · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:04 pm Post subject:

True, but even on the capital ship they're on (a modified Loronar Medium Transport), there's only two pilots (at most); a pilot and co-pilot.

I don't expect to run PCs on a larger ship anytime soon, though your point is still a good one (might want to word it so that only one can do so per round or something).
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DougRed4 · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:56 pm Post subject:

To curb any potential for abuse, I've reworded things to account for what garhkal pointed out: that more than once character could be piloting at a time. Thus I've amended it to read:

Character Points
Any involved pilots may use their own Character Points to affect their craft’s Hull roll, but only for defensive uses and maneuvers, and only one character may do so per round.
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garhkal · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject:

jmanski · Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject:

So then the gunners add cp to their damage rolls and it becomes a wash. I personally wouldn't allow it on capital scale ships. For PCs I'd allow it in certain circumstances in Starfighter scale ships.
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