Snipers

[garhkal]

Which is all good info, but i feel snipers (mil) are better rounded for what they do than swat ones.. and also are better at the distance shots..
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[garhkal]

SWAT snipers don't really do much more than get in position ( by vehicle are they usually getting there) and waiting to get called to kill. Mil snipers slog through wildernesses, and sometimes have to spend days at a time staying still before they get that one shot.

That is what i was on about.
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[thedemonapostle]

swat vs military

well lets list off the pros and cons of each.

swat sniper
pros:
1. excel at precision shooting in urban settings
2. dont usually have people shooting at them
3. usually get to choose their weapon
4. their weapon usually has some of the best accessories available on the police market
5. is rarely deployed without a minimum of squad level support

cons:
1. has only the best mass produced ammo available
2. receives less formal training than military in regards to the rifle
3. relies heavily upon scoped and precision rifles
4. short term combat engagements, meaning they are usually only deployed for several hours a year
5. is mobile

military sniper
pros:
1. excels at precision shooting in all settings
2. can survive is most environments alone (though usually they have their spotter)
3. has some of the best precision custom made ammo available
4. less reliant upon heavily modified weapons
5. more experience

cons:
1. their selection of rifle is usually limited
2. does not work well in a group
3. deployed into combat zones excessively (ptsd)
4. can only eliminate a target if given command authority
5. superiors look on them as being more expendable

personally ive gone threw both. law enforcement rifle training is much more relaxed at all stages of training. and at the end of the day you get to go home to your spouse. in the military half of your rifle training with your unit is composed of field training exercises that last for sometimes weeks. no cell phone, no hot food (mre's dont count) no hot shower, and no comfy bed. but we we important? id say we were as about important as the lowly infantry grenadier in the eyes of our superiors. in law enforcement it was always a competition. if you were second best you werent even a spotter, you were no one. and if the best had a bad day, he became second best, aka no one. and you have to be someone to be the sniper in law enforcement.

who shoots better? neither, both.
who is more adaptable to their environment? military
who works better in:
team? military
squad? swat
platoon? swat
company? swat
battalion? both
brigade? military
who has the better rifle? swat
who is better at the ever changing conditions of combat engagements? military
who has more experience overall? military
who has the better moral? swat
who gets paid more? swat (E-5 =~$2,000/ month swat sniper=~$2,500+/month)
who has the opportunity for a larger gun? military (.308win is the largest swat is permitted to use, .50BMG is the current largest the military uses)

one also has to remember that swat's budget is based upon the local law enforcement agency's cash flow. while the military's budget is based upon the governing body's defense budget. so the military is going to have better training overall. but the military sniper is more of a political tool than the swat sniper. the swat sniper has less cultural/political knowledge than the military sniper. the military sniper is more specialized for the mission. the swat sniper has more social experience.
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[Bren]

Well I guess some of these snipers were well rounded.

[garhkal]

That's a good breakdown apostle.
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