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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ouch... I'm looking at Wookieepedia descriptions of this environment altering power, and it looks like it was almost unique to Plo Koon and Streen. Streen was already covered in the Jedi Academy books, and they gave him weather sense.
It might seem like a cheapskate alternative, but we could say that he did these things with the Force, but that they seemed to be an almost unique ability. I wouldn't want to give players power to freeze lakes and create fog at their whim. It's just got too many implications for other applications of the Force as well. The physics question of WHAT does he do when he alters the weather just creates something scary. Does he change jet streams and cold fronts? Or is this a purely Force-manifested condition? If it's the latter, it raises the question of if the Jedi can create something that huge, why the Jedi can't create a spring of water when he's thirsty. If it's the former, then the telekinetic uses of the Force have just expanded a hundredfold.
It also seems that he's manifested electric judgment as well. That's a power I'm not touching. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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There's not that much information out there about this one, but here we go.
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Bene
Bene was only a young Padawan when Order 66 was executed. When the newly named Darth Vader and his horde of Clone Troopers stormed the Jedi Temple, Bene was training under the Jedi sword master Cin Drallig. Vader had engaged Drallig in a fierce lightsaber battle when Bene and another Padawan, Malreaux, came to assist the Jedi Master. During the battle Bene and her comrades perished attempting to end the path of destruction that Vader had begun. The only tribute that remains of the Padawan is Obi-Wan's discovery of her death and Anakin's treachery, as Obi-Wan watches a security hologram of Vader strangling Bene with a free hand during the lightsaber battle.
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Gry Sarth Jedi

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's pretty thin information. So she was a padawan and Vader killed her... I'll see if there isn't anything else somewhere...
And about Plo Koon, yeah, his powers are a real can of worms. I remember there was a "Raise/Lower Temperature" fan-made power that we excluded from our Powers book. Weather Sense really isn't the light-side equivalent of Force Wind (it's more like "Force Weather Forecast"), and Electric Judgment (or Emerald Lightning) is a very touchy issue in the community.
And as for the d20 stats, they don't include ANY of the above abilities. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them."
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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I went back and edited the description of Bene when I took a close look at a clip from E3. There was some scant reference to Anakin strangling her during their fight. I noticed that this was actually in the movie, so I made mention of Obi-Wan seeing the holo and discovering Anakin's trechary.
But still... it looks like Bene was just there for plot device and not much separates her from any other background mook. |
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Gry Sarth Jedi

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think maybe we should put both Bene and Whie in a single entry? _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose that depends on precedent. Are there any characters in any official WEG supplements with such short entries?
Interestingly enough, it looks like there is plenty of information on the other Padawan. Go figure. |
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Gry Sarth Jedi

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Can't think of an example in a WEG book of a character with so little information. Oh, but I guess with the added strangulation detail, it's good enough to suit its own entry. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, strangulation makes everything better
... no wait. |
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Forceally Commodore


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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I think there's one precedent. In The Thrawn Trilogy Sourcebook, there was a short entry for Ensign Mitthel. At least I think that's his name. I'm referring to the tractor beam operator in The Last Command who tried to come up with a countermeasure for the covert shroud gambit that Luke used. He failed, but Thrawn noticed his initiative and promoted him to Lieutenant. |
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PsiberDragon Commander


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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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cheshire wrote: | I suppose that depends on precedent. Are there any characters in any official WEG supplements with such short entries? |
You mean aside from Mace Windu, the squib droid trader? (Pre-retconning, that is)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rejlii_Mithel
There's your boy.  _________________ "Love like you will die tomorrow. Hate like you will live forever." - Unknown |
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Gry Sarth Jedi

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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Mace Windu has a decent-sized text, with personality and so forth. I think this Rejlii Mithel is the best example in this case. His text is really small and barely talks about the man himself. Notably, his text is not entered in the normal fashion, but as a "Capsule" under the stats. Maybe that's the way to go with such uninteresting characters... _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the start of what I'm working on with Anakin (I haven't proof read it yet, so don't jump on me too hard).
I'm going this direction after reading the Galaxy Guide for Return of the Jedi. Vader's entry was pretty introspective showing his insights and feelings, rather than relaying information that everyone knows from the movies. I'm relying quite a bit on the RotS novel to help me with getting Anakin's perspective. Here's the beginning. I don't want to go too far with it if it's going to be too heavy or if it's going to need to be seriously trimmed.
Anyway, give me your thoughts and we'll work with this one.
Quote: | Anakin was a man of conflicted loyalties. His emotions and duties tore him between his commitment to the Jedi order, his devotion to the Supreme Chancellor, and of course, his love for Padme Amidalla. During the onset of the war it seemed easy enough to keep all in line. Padme was persistently on Couroscant, and Anakin had been taken under Palpatine’s wing and learned near as much from his wisdom as he had from his Jedi training. However, all had come to a head the day that he was dispatched to rescue the Chancellor from Count Dooku.
Though the rescue was carried out effectively enough, and Skywalker managed to subdue his opponent, and he had the moment he had been waiting for. He had Dooku’s life in his hands. His years of Jedi training stayed his hand from killing the man. But the cancellor’s order to kill him rang through his mind. Was it an order? No. It was more a moral permission. A Jedi’s lightsaber in one hand, another of Sith crafting in the other, Skywalker made his choice. But as soon as the stroke fell, so did his guilt. Nonetheless, he could never unmake the choice to take the life of a defenseless man.
Anakin returned to Couroscant a hero, lauded as the mighty champion who returned the Chancellor to safety, and drove off the terrible General Grievous, and returned he and his Jedi Master to safety. Couroscant was exactly where Anakin wanted to be. There he would see his beloved wife. After five months away from her, he was tired of deception, and longed to be with her. Of course, their secret marriage could not remain a secret forever, as Padme was pregnant. Despite the myriad of implications that had for the forbidden love of a senator and a Jedi, Skywalker chose the news as something to cherish. However, he could not cherish it long, as on the eve that he learned the wonderful news, he also saw a vision of his love’s death.
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Scratch it... I'm going back to the drawing board. |
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Gry Sarth Jedi

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Hehe, what's bugging you? _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)

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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm just trying to mimic what was done elsewhere without the freedom to create, (like WEG was). I've got some material to pull from in the novelization, and I just don't think it's coming together well enough to do it justice.
I'm going to try another go at the first half except using another WEG method, and that of taking the perspective of a historian of the era, and making observations and comments from that perspective. I'll do the first half, and then we'll see which is coming together better. |
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