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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Heck, other than that Sand person shooting a slug thrower at the pod racers, we don't see any sluggers used! Yet alone how a Jedi would fair against one.


I think Zam uses one om Episode 2. it didn't do her much good, but then the Jedi didn't do anything special to stop it either.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Zam uses one om Episode 2. it didn't do her much good, but then the Jedi didn't do anything special to stop it either.

The only time she used it was on her own Assassin Droid. Even though I think Jedi are equally as capable of absorbing the energy of a bullet as the energy of a blaster bolt, I think it would be too much for them to absorb the impact of a bullet on a droid they happened to be holding onto at the moment.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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garhkal wrote:

Heck, other than that Sand person shooting a slug thrower at the pod racers, we don't see any sluggers used! Yet alone how a Jedi would fair against one.


I think Zam uses one om Episode 2. it didn't do her much good, but then the Jedi didn't do anything special to stop it either.


i thought it was a sniper blaster rifle, but looked her up in GG15 (ATOC) and it was statted out as a slug thrower.
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:

i thought it was a sniper blaster rifle, but looked her up in GG15 (ATOC) and it was statted out as a slug thrower.



The case could be made that Zam picked a slughtrower for this mission becuase she was going up and Jedi and didn't want them to absorb the energy! Wink

It wouldn't be a very good case, but it could be made.


A better case could be made that Zam picked a slughtrower for this mission because she was going up and Jedi and didn't want them to deflect a shot back at her.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A better case could be made that Zam picked a slughtrower for this mission because she was going up and Jedi and didn't want them to deflect a shot back at her.

An even better case could be made that it is her preferred long range weapon since it is stored in a custom, retractable, concealed gun rack in the side of her personal speeder.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Specifically this:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/KiSteer_1284_projectile_rifle
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The case could be made that Zam picked a slughtrower for this mission becuase she was going up and Jedi and didn't want them to absorb the energy! Wink

It wouldn't be a very good case, but it could be made.


A better case could be made that Zam picked a slughtrower for this mission because she was going up and Jedi and didn't want them to deflect a shot back at her.


True, the no reflecting it back is often seen as one of the reasons slug throwers are great "anti-jedi' weaponry. BUT if they are allowed to absorb the kinetic energy OF a slug thrower then their 'threat' as being anti-jedi weaponry is reduced dramatically.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:

True, the no reflecting it back is often seen as one of the reasons slug throwers are great "anti-jedi' weaponry. BUT if they are allowed to absorb the kinetic energy OF a slug thrower then their 'threat' as being anti-jedi weaponry is reduced dramatically.


Nah. Since a Jedi can parry bullets, absorbing isn' such a big thing. The major benefit is that the shooter doesn't have to worry about their shots being redirected back at them.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But is the bullet turned to 'gas' that harmlessly goes up in smoke, or is it turned to molten metal that still hits the jedi?!?!
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But is the bullet turned to 'gas' that harmlessly goes up in smoke, or is it turned to molten metal that still hits the jedi?!?!


If a lightsaber blade can stop another lighters from passing through, or a blaster bolt, then a piece of lead isn't going to get through. It might drop to the ground a metal rain, but that's still alit better than going through the Jedi.

Or course there is a point where the bullet becomes too wide for the lightsaber to block it all, but that's in the autocannon range.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2014 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking the metal rain would still hit the Jedi (or at least a portion of it) due to the high speed of the bullet.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This sounds like the sort of thing Mythbusters would love to try. Of course, without a working simulation of a lightsaber, that's not going to happen.

Of course, I'm sure they're just as disappointed by that as I am.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmanski wrote:
I'm thinking the metal rain would still hit the Jedi (or at least a portion of it) due to the high speed of the bullet.


I think it would get defected. A blaster bolt is going faster than a bullet (supposedly) and all of it get deflected. Same physics.

Unfortunately, I'm all out of Jedi to test this with.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or course there is a point where the bullet becomes too wide for the lightsaber to block it all, but that's in the autocannon range.


Na that's why you use full auto, OR a shotgun!
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheshire wrote:
This sounds like the sort of thing Mythbusters would love to try. Of course, without a working simulation of a lightsaber, that's not going to happen.

Of course, I'm sure they're just as disappointed by that as I am.


Not exactly a lightsaber but there is this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/16/
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