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Leon The Lion
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| Kytross wrote: | It's a monofilament wire. Think of it like a wire cheese slicer. It cuts easily through a soft medium but would get caught up on anything harder.
I'd say you can break it by waving a heavy wooden stick through the wires, though a metal pole or a vibro axe would be better. Stormtrooper armor would probably completely negate this stuff.
This is the kind of trap that only works once.
I'd rate the monofilament wire at 1D body strength character scale. When someone goes through it they're going to completely destroy the trap |
This may very well be true of realistic mono-wire (I wouldn't know - did anybody manage to produce mono-wire in real life yet?).
However, I'm willing to bet heavily that what the authors had in mind when designing Star Wars mono-wire is supposed to be the cinematic kind. Like the mono-whip in Johnny Mnemonic, for example. Absurdly sharp, able to instantly slice clean through flesh and steel with equal ease at the lightest touch, and almost unbreakable.
Only armour specially treated with a diamond mono-weave would offer any kind of proterction, and you would need an energy cutting tool, like a welding/cutting torch or lightsaber, to cut the wire.
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garhkal
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That 'monofilament whip' from Johnny mnemonic is what i initially thought of as well, when i first read about the monofilament strip.
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Fallon Kell
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Yeah, with damage ratings like that, I can't imagine it wouldn't slice bone and plastoid armor like butter. That's why I believe destroying the temper of the wire is the most critical step.
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Leon The Lion
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| Fallon Kell wrote: | | Yeah, with damage ratings like that, I can't imagine it wouldn't slice bone and plastoid armor like butter. That's why I believe destroying the temper of the wire is the most critical step. |
Seem like a good idea... But would that even work? Tempering, as I understand it, is used on iron-based alloys (or am I confusing something here?). But would the wire be made of such? Or is it made from carbon nano-tubes or something other non-metalic? Would your idea still work in that case?
And even if it's metal, can it be an alloy instead of a pure substance? The wire is a one molecule thick, like a string of single particles. An alloy would require a mix of different substances, so different maolecules (right?). How is that supposed to work with the above? And if the wire is pure metal instead of alloy, would the de-tempering work?
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Ral_Brelt
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The other option is instead of trying to weaken with heat to then break...one could, if properly aware, have cooling material to super chill it so it becomes brittle. From there its a matter of 'tap' and it shatters.
There's also always the option of a UCT (Universal Cutting Tool, aka lightsaber) if they know to expect such devious security. |
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cheshire
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My impression has been that the lack of visibility is what made them a viable defense. Not knowing that its there is its greatest strength. I've allowed a character to cut through one with a lightsaber, naturally, but I'd allow a character to counter it in a number of ways. Granted, it's likely to harm a vibroblade if you apply the blade directly to the filiment with no lateral motion, but I may allow someone to try to cut a monofiliment, or perhaps separate it from its attachment point.
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So we got that spot covered.. Now we need to work on what 'movement speed' counts as "Moving rapidly".
Is it going cruise speed (10m/round)
Is it going at a brisk run (20m/round)
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Cruising speed (2m/sec) hardly seems particularly rapid to me. Though I would say that the 4m/sec should qualify.
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| You don't think moving into a wall of razors, edge facing at 7 feet per second would do much damage? |
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Oh, I'm sure it would do quite a bit of damage. And 6D sounds pretty spot on for that. That's more than your average blaster. I'd say that 9D is pretty fair for running headlong into one.
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DougRed4
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Sometimes it helps those of us who don't use the metric system that often to put it into values we can more readily understand.
2 meters/second is about 4.5 miles per hour, so not particularly fast. According to answers commonly found on the interwebs, a 'walk' is usually about 3 mph, a 'brisk walk' is around 4, and a 'jog' around 6 mph.
So consider that 2 meters/second to be a brisk walk.
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