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| crmcneill wrote: | | ZzaphodD wrote: | | crmcneill wrote: | | How do you handle difficulty for that? After all, the leading ship has to calculate a specific route, but a following ship, with no idea where their target is headed, are just making a shot in the dark. |
Generally from hard (if you follow immediately) to heroic (depending on time) sensor check. Well, actually after a certain time (depending on plot but its minutes at most) its impossible. You have to know the vector of entry and then follow the trail through hyperspace. |
So, if I'm reading this right, all the hard work for the calculations is being done by the other ship, so it is just a flat difficulty for another ship to follow its path, with the sole variable being the time delay between the initial jump and the tracking vessel's jump to follow? |
To me it would be the base calculation of the jump itself, plus a modifier of +5-15 based on the length of time it has been since the ship being tracked entered hyperspace.
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ZzaphodD
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| crmcneill wrote: | | Hmm. That kind of on-the-fly astrogation would seem to require something like the Nav-Computer Route Astrogation Bypass module from Galladinium's Fantastic Technology. My understanding was that a ship in hyperspace had to stick to a plotted course, and to change course would require the ship to drop out of hyperspace, recalculate, then jump to hyperspace again. |
Yeah, my players always have a fast switch to overriding the nav-computer safety... Good for those small microjumps to just get out of the area...
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ZzaphodD
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| crmcneill wrote: | | ZzaphodD wrote: | | crmcneill wrote: | | How do you handle difficulty for that? After all, the leading ship has to calculate a specific route, but a following ship, with no idea where their target is headed, are just making a shot in the dark. |
Generally from hard (if you follow immediately) to heroic (depending on time) sensor check. Well, actually after a certain time (depending on plot but its minutes at most) its impossible. You have to know the vector of entry and then follow the trail through hyperspace. |
So, if I'm reading this right, all the hard work for the calculations is being done by the other ship, so it is just a flat difficulty for another ship to follow its path, with the sole variable being the time delay between the initial jump and the tracking vessel's jump to follow? |
Ah, now I get it. Yes, the ship need to enter hyperspace using the same vector which needs an astrogation roll (rather easy most of the time, just getting the vector right).
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Another potential modifier would be how good of a sensor read the tracking ship got on its target jump, so the success of the Sensors roll might result in a bonus to Astrogation.
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ZzaphodD
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| crmcneill wrote: | | Another potential modifier would be how good of a sensor read the tracking ship got on its target jump, so the success of the Sensors roll might result in a bonus to Astrogation. |
Yes, or the opposite.. 
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CRMcNeill
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| ZzaphodD wrote: | | crmcneill wrote: | | Another potential modifier would be how good of a sensor read the tracking ship got on its target jump, so the success of the Sensors roll might result in a bonus to Astrogation. |
Yes, or the opposite.. |
Oooooh, the possibilities... 
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garhkal
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| ZzaphodD wrote: |
Yeah, my players always have a fast switch to overriding the nav-computer safety... Good for those small microjumps to just get out of the area... |
Did they suffer if they missed the astrog roll/rolled a 1 on the wild die cause of that?
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Another potential modifier would be how good of a sensor read the tracking ship got on its target jump, so the success of the Sensors roll might result in a bonus to Astrogation.
Yes, or the opposite.. Laughing |
Say if they beat the base diff by +5 to +10, they gain 1d to their roll. +10-+15, they gain 2d? And visa versa>
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| garhkal wrote: | | ZzaphodD wrote: |
Yeah, my players always have a fast switch to overriding the nav-computer safety... Good for those small microjumps to just get out of the area...
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Did they suffer if they missed the astrog roll/rolled a 1 on the wild die cause of that?
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I hasnt happened yet, its not that often they do 'instant' hyperspace jumps, just when the sh*t has hit the fan so bad insta-dying is the only thing that can be a worse alternative... (They had no maneuver thrusters, no shields and had a capital scale SSD torpedo seconds away from hitting the ship...). Just for fun I gave them the dice code (17D) and asked them 'whats your plan'...
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| garhkal wrote: | | Did they suffer if they missed the astrog roll/rolled a 1 on the wild die cause of that? |
I looked over the Astrogation Mishap table once, looking for just this situation, and IIRC, all but one of them required the hyperspace cut-out to be active. If that is the case, an Astrogation Mishap with a malfunctioning or deactivated hyperspace cut-out switch would result in either instant destruction of the ship or catastrophic system failure, with the ship either stuck in hyperspace or marooned somewhere in interstellat space.
| Quote: | | Say if they beat the base diff by +5 to +10, they gain 1d to their roll. +10-+15, they gain 2d? And visa versa> |
That works for me.
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