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		| Jen'tara Rhee Ensign
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Martial Arts Styles! |   |  
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				| Hey everyone, I wanted to start a post here for us to create "styles" for the optional rules in the Rebel SpecForce Handbook.  Feel free to discuss and post your ideas for styles here, for my part I plan to work on Teras Kasi, basing it both on the d20 and on Star Wars Galaxies... I'll post my ideas when I get them written up, and you guys give me suggestions or post your favorite styles   
 Edit: IF you really like a real world style, create it but rename it to be star warsy... for example... maybe Praying Mantis Style Kung Fu might be Genosian Martial Arts or something like that...
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		| blackjack Cadet
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:28 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| well here's spark's  spec op's rules thought you might like it 
 Special Skill Rules  SpecForce Martial Arts: To help maintain game balance within the Sparks campaign the rules governing the SpecForce Martial Arts skill have been changed.  First we have split the SpecForce Martial Arts skill into two separate skills, one for offense the other for defense.  The offensive skill will remain a specialization under Brawling where the defensive skill will become a specialization under Brawling Parry and will be called SpecForce Martial Arts Parry.  Due to this split the possible techniques that can be learned have also been split between offensive and defensive styles (see list below).  Secondly the character being trained must learn the basic techniques before others can be learned.  For the offensive skill the character must learn Punch (Very Easy difficulty; inflicts Strength + 1D damage) and Kick (Easy difficulty; inflicts Strength + 2D damage).  For the defensive skill the character must learn Weapon Block (as outlined in Rules of Engagement book).  The general rules for learning techniques still apply.  The character learns one technique for each full die code SpecForce Martial Arts (or Parry) is raised above the Brawling (or Parry) skill.  The third change involves the learning of these skills.  Both the offensive and defensive specializations are learned at the same time as if they were one skill.  But due to the unique nature of this skill and the training required, player characters can no longer train other characters.  This skill must be learned from an NPC at a seminar or interactive.  Also before they receive this training the character must enlist in the Rebel military service (characters whom already know this skill will not have it removed).  These focused techniques are then only shared with other members of the Rebel military ranks.
 
 Offensive Techniques
 Disarm  Moderate: disarms the target character.
 Elbow Smash  Very Easy: adds +1D to damage roll.
 Flying Kick  Difficult: adds +2D to damage roll and incorporates one move action; 		failure means you are off balance and your opponent gets a free attack at no 		additional multiple action penalty.
 Foot Sweep  Moderate: trips opponent, which must remain prone for the remainder of 	the round.
 Hold/Grapple  Moderate: grapples the opponent; every round the character must make 	an opposed Strength roll to continue to grapple opponent.
 Instant Knockdown  Moderate: knocks target down; to stand the target must wait one 	round or suffer multiple action penalties.
 Instant Stun  Moderate: stuns target for one round.
 Instant Wound  Difficult: causes a wound to the target.
 Kick (required second)  Easy: adds +2D to damage roll.
 Multiple Strikes  Moderate: make a second attack that deals 3D damage with no 	multiple action penalties.
 Nerve Punch  Very Difficult: renders an opponents limb (arm or leg, specified prior to 	the attempt) unusable for 3D rounds; any item held in the limb is dropped; if the 	target difficulty is exceeded by 15, then the opponent is rendered unconscious.
 Punch (required first)  Very Easy: adds +1D to damage roll.
 Silent Strike  Difficult: the character must be within arms reach of the target and remain 	undetected; the character can instantly kill or render unconscious (characters 	choice) their opponent.
 Spinning Kick  Moderate: adds +1D to damage roll; reduces targets defensive roll by 5; 	failure means you are off balance and your opponent gets a free attack at no 		additional multiple action penalty.
 Shoulder Throw  Moderate: hurls target to the ground causing 3D damage.
 
 Defensive Techniques
 Blindfighting  Very Difficult: (reaction) character ignores the effects of blindness.
 Flip  Moderate: (reaction) hurls target to the ground causing 3D damage.
 Headbutt  Easy: (reaction) inflicts Str + 1D damage and can be used if bound or held.
 Instant Stand  Moderate: return to a standing position after being tripped or knocked 	down without suffering any multiple action penalties.
 Power Block  Moderate: (reaction) successful parry inflicts Str + 1D on target.
 Reversal  Opposed Strength or Martial Arts roll: (reaction) breaks targets hold and 	character can employ a hold/grapple or other technique without multiple action 	penalties.
 Weapon-block (required first)  Opposed Martial Arts vs. Melee Combat: blocks a melee 	attack; negates melee weapon to unarmed combat bonus.
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 as long as no one says they have a bad "feeling" about this we will all be fine
 (in the back ground you here i have a bad feeling about this ,on the ships com. )
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		| Jen'tara Rhee Ensign
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Hmmm... not bad, although I more am looking for styles that will limit the number of moves you learn based on a theme, unless you want to pay extra for moves out of your chosen style. _________________
 Jen'tara Rhee, Twi'lek Dark Jedi/Ace Pilot
 AKA RagabashMoon
 Rancor Pit Martial Arts Styles: http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9894#9894
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		| blackjack Cadet
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:31 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| ok i thought you might like it . it's from a group called sparkforce ,and i do find that i do like it but as for coming up with new one's im kind of lost on that one i could try and come up with new names and group these skills to gether i do know that there was talk of taking some skilles like Instant Stun /Instant Wound/ Nerve Punch/ Silent Strike, and make it so you have to make a knowledge alien species role to hit the right spot or it would faile but that was a thought they had .
 by for now
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		| Jen'tara Rhee Ensign
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | blackjack wrote: |  	  | ok i thought you might like it . it's from a group called sparkforce ,and i do find that i do like it but as for coming up with new one's im kind of lost on that one i could try and come up with new names and group these skills to gether i do know that there was talk of taking some skilles like Instant Stun /Instant Wound/ Nerve Punch/ Silent Strike, and make it so you have to make a knowledge alien species role to hit the right spot or it would faile but that was a thought they had .
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 Yes, it's interesting rules variation, although I think the current rules just limiting by style would suffice.  I'll show you what I mean when I finish writing up my version of the Teras Kasi... basically if you have the WotC hero's guide you can look up their styles (all of which are just "feats" making up styles from the novels... I don't think they actually created any of them.) and easily see what "tecniques" to use...
 
 Also, that "knowledge alien species" roll isn't a bad idea... Although most species would be similar enough, I'd say maybe easy for most, harder for some...
 
 To "one up" that idea, maybe allow a "moderate" alien species roll to maybe add an extra die of stun damage to your attack, like for example if you are attacking a twi'lek, you might roll and then be allowed to attack their lekku (head-tails) for extreme pain, as traditionally, the lekku are erogenous zones, so they end up being a much bigger target for a "crotch kick" effect.
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 Rancor Pit Martial Arts Styles: http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9894#9894
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				|  Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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 Ok, cool. Thanks.  You might make sure that the file credits him and links to his website, then ask him if he minds full distribution with the credits.  He shouldn't mind, as long as he's credited, to support his fellow West End fans, but it's always best to be sure.
 
 EDIT: Ok, downloaded it and gave just the first half page a look over, and I kinda like what I saw... Don't have time right now for a full read, but the treatment of it as an advanced skill might be a good way in some campaigns.  I'll try to finish up my Teras Kasi write up sometime this weekend or early in the week and get it posted.
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 Jen'tara Rhee, Twi'lek Dark Jedi/Ace Pilot
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				|  Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:00 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| [quote="Jen'tara Rhee I'll try to finish up my Teras Kasi write up sometime this weekend or early in the week and get it posted.[/quote] 
 Not sure why I didn't get it done that weekend, but right now... I'm not too inclined to care.  I was a creature handler on SWG, you see.  Luckily I wasn't playing at the time of release of the new expansion due to finanicial reasons, or I'd be screaming to the Better Business Bureau like all the other CH that bought that expansion...
 
 For those that don't know, they released an expansion November 1st that added a bunch of new content for Creature Handlers (among other things, but it has a LOT of creature handler content... every CH almost bought it, with the idea of "Finally! The love and appreciation we have always wanted... an expansion almost totally for us!!!") then the very next day. After all the credit cards were charged... the "new iconic professions" were announced.  On November 15th, they are completely redoing Star Wars Galaxies to be more like Battlefront.  There was a profession missing. Creature Handlers. When asked, the developers said, "Yes, creature handlers only make up 1% of the population, they are being removed, as they are not Star-Warsy".
 
 That 1% thing is a lie, previous "astromech" reports put us a lot higher, and the release of an expansion like ToOW should have increased that number... not dropped it to 1%.
 
 I wouldn't be mad at LucasArts and Star Wars in general, if I didn't know how very much of a controlling interest LA has in SWG.  SOE isn't doing this alone.  LA is very much a driving force behind it.  It might not be ALL them... but it's definitely not ALL Sony.
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 Jen'tara Rhee, Twi'lek Dark Jedi/Ace Pilot
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That is a definite problem that I've come by in the past. Having to use the brawling parry skill and the specialization for martial arts under it.  Having to raise two skills.... I like the adaptation, though I tend to have specific flow for how you can aquire skills: 
 Instant knock down
 Instant stun
 Instant wound
 Multiple Strikes or silent strike
 
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		| garhkal Sovereign Protector
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well, i know sparks has it, where you can only get a skill every FULL dice you get over your base brawl, in the RSFMA.  And you have some order.  You have to learn punch, then kick.  After that you are free to pick what you will. _________________
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