Rogue One (original spoilers thread)

MrNexx · Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:53 pm Post subject:

I'm going digital for initial purchases... I'll get the physical copies later, when more movies have come out.
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Sutehp · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject:

My B&N pre-order of BluRay of Rogue One just arrived in my mail a day early!!!!!

I'm watching the bonus features right now; I'm saving rewatching the actual film for tonight. I'm so stoked!
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Whill · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 2:29 am Post subject:

Whill · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:54 am Post subject:

I have the plans to the Death Star! Blu-ray and DVD of Rogue One available at retail now!

Here are some posts about the Music of Rogue One.
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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb · Commodore Joined: 07 Apr 2017 Posts: 1448

That scene where Jyn meets Chirrut Imwe for the first time (the blind guy): When she walks away, he says, "The strongest stars have hearts of kyber."

Is he talking about the Death Star?

No. He's talking about Jyn.

The mission to take the plans only happens because of Jyn. She is the "star" (and the star of the film). And, around her neck, she wears the necklace her mom gave her the day Krennic's troops killed her. The kyber crystal rests over her heart.

Awesome.

Wajeb Deb Kaadeb · Commodore Joined: 07 Apr 2017 Posts: 1448

So....when Cassian and Jyn left Jedha in a hurry, Cassian went to lightspeed within the gravity well of the planet.

Well, that's possible with the D6 rules, and Han Solo did it the other way (landed on Starkiller Base, coming out of lightspeed) in The Force Awakens. I'm sure Cassian blew a Force Point to pull that off (plus, with Han, some of that might be chalked up to a technology change almost 40 years later).

But...let's talk about Cassian having K2 change course while in hyperspace. I didn't think that was possible. Or, maybe K2 comes out of lightspeed, recalculates, and jumps to Eadu off screen?

Thoughts?

Plus...I'm a bit rusty on my Star Wars (D6 and the official universe). Has communications in hyperspace always been possible?

Sutehp · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:09 am Post subject:

It seems like Rogue One introduces alot of retcons that contradict or seem to contradict what we know of the SWD6 Universe. Then again, that started with WEG's Early Installment Weirdness of having married Jedi among other stuff that got retconned later in the Prequels...

But yeah, let's look at Rogue One's apparent retcons:

Changing course while in hyperspace transit.

Realtime communication (across multiple sectors, no less!) while in hyperspace transit.

Multiple examples of traveling in hyperspace across the galaxy in (apparently) mere hours: 1) Yavin to Ring of Kafrene (Cassian Andor going from Galactic North to Galactic Southwest; "I got here as fast as I could" indeed);
2) Wobani to Yavin (Jyn being rescued from prison in Mid Rim near Hutt Space to Galactic North);
3) Yavin to Jedha (Jyn, Cassian and K-2SO going from Galactic North to Galactic West Mid Rim Freestanding Subsector);
4) Jedha to Eadu (Galactic West Mid Rim Freestanding Subsector to Galactic East near Hutt Space);
5) Eadu back to Yavin;
6) Yavin to Scarif (Galactic North to Galactic South)
...all in the space of a few days at most. And most of these trips are literally across the width of the galaxy and take place in mere hours. For fuk's sake, when Mon Mothma and the generals at Yavin find out that Rogue One is already at Scarif, they scramble the fleet and it gets across the galaxy (from the Gordian Reach in the Galactic North to Abrion Sector in the Galactic Southeast!) in mere hours while the ground battle is still ongoing.

So it appears we can cross the galaxy in less than a day. Who needs the Millennium Falcon with its fancy schmancy Class 0.5 Hyperdrive now? We're still gonna get from Tatooine to the Core in a reasonable time anyway....

And don't mind my seemingly sarcastic tone. I think these retcons are awesome, even if they might complicate or even apparently contradict D6 rules. Being able to get across the galaxy this quickly can make for some fast-paced adventures if you're racing against time for one reason or another.
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garhkal · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:53 am Post subject:

Wajeb Deb Kaadeb · Commodore Joined: 07 Apr 2017 Posts: 1448

From what I understand, length of time in hyperspace is not dependent on the distance to the destination. Instead, time is dependent on the route taken and obstacles avoided.

Some routes are well known--well mapped--and take not time at all.

As an example, Alderaan to Tatooine may take a base 7 hours, and Tatooine to Dantooine may take a base 20 hours, even though Dantooine is a tenth of the distance, in light years, away from Tatooine when compared to Alderaan. Dantooine is a lot closer, but the hyperspace trip is almost three times as long.

I would expect that some routes even deteriorate over time, because everything normal space moves. And, though space is quite BIG, sometimes things that move get in the way.

I think the D6 Star Wars Astrogation system handles all this beautifully, no matter if we're talking about TFA, RO, or the original trilogy (or even prequels).

Also--we really don't know how long some of the trips take in the movies. They move along at the speed of plot, as we all know, but maybe the movies aren't showing us a day or more in a hyperspace trip. We just cut to the destination.

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CRMcNeill · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 2:26 am Post subject:

Star Wars 2E Rulebook, page 110: "Ships must fly at least 50 units from a planet before jumping into hyperspace.

Star Wars 2R&E Rulebook, page 115: "Five minutes to fly from orbit to a safe hyperspace jump point."

Wanted By Cracken, page 118:

Range to Center of Gravity Well = Difficulty Modifier to Astrogation

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Wajeb Deb Kaadeb · Commodore Joined: 07 Apr 2017 Posts: 1448

CRMcNeill · Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:24 am Post subject:

This presumes that Han has done nothing to improve his Astrogation skill level in the intervening 20-odd years between the end of ROTJ and TFA. Considering he has spent most of that time working as a tramp freighter / smuggler, I find that unlikely.

And even if he didn't, he has Force Points to spare, and this would certainly be the time to use them.

And even disregarding all of that, Han is a film character, not a player character, and film characters don't necessarily abide by the same rules as regular PCs.

So, in conclusion, 1) Han Solo can pull this off if the situation is dire enough, and 2) your character isn't Han Solo.
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