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Response from Frank:Case by case basis. The rule applies mostly to cargo ships.
A 2 meter high cargo deck will not fit a forklift-styled cargo loader.
2m x 140% = 2.8m
You can take 2.8m and increase that to 3.1m and you can load 3m cargo modules with 10cm for manipulation and hold down straps.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | Response from Frank:Case by case basis. The rule applies mostly to cargo ships.
A 2 meter high cargo deck will not fit a forklift-styled cargo loader.
2m x 140% = 2.8m
You can take 2.8m and increase that to 3.1m and you can load 3m cargo modules with 10cm for manipulation and hold down straps. |
Noted! Thank you!
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https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dynamic-class_freighter
This is main Canon, and too cool to not be in my headcanon/SWU/SWM.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Honestly, I don't know. It's noteworthy that, when it comes to the deck plans of Frank's that I use, he is still using WEG listed lengths. I guess I could hit him up and ask him again. |
Any word on these deck plans being updated? I am rather keen on using them!
[img]https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/swtor/images/b/b3/KotOR_2_Ebon_Hawk_shot_%289%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20150213072931[/img]
((forgive the mess to follow; i'm trying to de-stress by working on stuff while my neighborhood sounds like a warzone, & the garbage pc is randomly effing up my typing. Lara Krath is a KotOR I & II char of mine making a comeback in SWTOR.))
Lara Krath's Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 45 meters, Width ~44 meters, Height/depth: 13.5 meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 24 meters, Width Roughly 22.5 meters, Height/depth: 13? meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 27.24 meters, Width 25.94 meters, Height/depth: 13? meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 33.6 meters, Width Roughly 31.5 meters, Height/depth: 13? meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 38.136 meters, Width 36.316 meters, Height/depth: 13? meters
Lara Krath's Fury-class Imperial Interceptors, , Length: 100 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 33 meters
Lara Krath's D5-Mantis Patrol Craft, , Length: 68 meters, Width 74 meters[2], Height/depth 58 meters[2]; Length: 74 meters, Width 68 meters[2], Height/depth 58 meters
Lara Krath's X-70B Phantom-class prototypes, , Length: 80 meters, Width 94 meters, Height/depth: 18 meters; Length: 94 meters, Width 80 meters, Height/depth: 18 meters
Lara Krath's XS stock light freighter, , Length: 101 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 27 meters
Lara Krath's Defender-class light corvette, , Length: 94 meters, Width 71 meters, Height/depth: 29 meters
Lara Krath's BT-7 Thunderclap, , Length: 100 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 33 meters
Lara Krath's x, , Length: ~800 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 33 meters
Lara Krath's Terminus-class destroyer, , Length: ~800 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 33 meters
Lara Krath's Leviathan-class Interdictor Cruiser, , Length: ~800 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 33 meters
Lara Krath's Harrower-class dreadnought, , Length: ~800 meters, Width 88 meters, Height/depth: 33 meters
Lara Krath's
Lara Krath's
https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/simgad/6552514637182425795?sqp=4sqPyQQ7QjkqNxABHQAAtEIgASgBMAk4A0DwkwlYAWBfcAKAAQGIAQGdAQAAgD-oAQGwAYCt4gS4AV_FAS2ynT4&rs=AOga4qkv2AaQVrcdI0_P8yfpYFv28TG-8w
Lara Krath's Dial of Destiny
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Millennium_Falcon/Legends
Length 34.37 meters[2]
Width 25.61 meters[7]
Height/depth 8.27 meters (including lower cannon and upper sensor array)[8]
https://rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=211918#211918 Post subject: Ship of Riddles (Archive Edition)
Ship of Riddles (Archive Edition) https://rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=184610#184610
Frank Bonura posted the following on the Star Wars D6 Facebook page. It's the length conversion chart they use over at the Star Wars Deckplans Alliance:
If a freighter's WEG length is < 53.4 meters long: 140%
If a freighter's WEG length is 53.5 to 106.7 meters long: 120%
If a freighter's WEG length is 106.8 to 213.5 meters long: 110%
If a freighter's WEG length is >= 213.6 meters long: No change
So, take the listed WEG length of a ship, compare that to the above list, then multiply accordingly.
For example, the 26.7 meters listed for a YT-1300 falls into the 140% range, so multiply 26.7 by 1.4 to get 37.38 meters.
Obviously most freighters that characters will be using fall into the 140% range.
EDIT: Added "WEG length" to the above table, to clarify which length to use as a base in (the EU being what it is, a ship can easily have multiple "official" lengths).
Dynamic-class Freighter
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera-gx&q=Dynamic-class+Freighter&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dynamic-class_freighter
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Dynamic-class_freighter/Legends
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/d/d5/Dynamic-class.png/revision/latest?cb=20080330025657
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/b4/NarShaddaaSkirmish.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120117165808 <Zoomed in, width 23 cm, height 5.5cm
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Ebon_Hawk
Ebon Hawk Map
https://www.google.com/search?client=opera-gx&q=Ebon+Hawk+Map&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
https://www.gamebanshee.com/starwarskotor/locations/ebonhawk.php
https://www.gamebanshee.com/starwarskotor/locations/maps/ebonhawk.jpg
https://deadlystream.com/files/file/1406-tsl-ebon-hawk-downloadable-map/
https://deadlystream.com/downloads/screens/monthly_2019_12/2018914115_TSLEHDM01.png.25908cabc0115d991c5a3d727ed21a45.png
https://deadlystream.com/downloads/screens/monthly_2019_12/749289129_TSLEHDM02.png.356c2ce271c836ec8b4e3c3aae0aa9ab.png <both are skewed
https://www.reddit.com/r/BladeAndSorcery/comments/enbfb8/the_ebon_hawk_is_my_new_favorite_star_wars_map/
https://swtor-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Ebon_Hawk
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/swtor/images/b/b3/KotOR_2_Ebon_Hawk_shot_%289%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20150213072931
estimate 1: W 255px x L 286px, 286px/255px = 1.121568627450980392156862745098, L 45m / 1.121568627450980392156862745098 = W 40.122377622377622377622377622379m or ~40.12m
estimate 2: W 250px x L 290px, 290px/250px = 1.16, L 45m / 1.16 = W 38.793103448275862068965517241379m or ~ 38.8m
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/260223684695956361/ Ebon Hawk
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a1/df/e4/a1dfe4c7580ce071c798444760e79ec5.png
http://gamerwalkthroughs.com/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-2/nar-shaddaa/
http://gamerwalkthroughs.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Nar-Shaddaa-Landing-Pad.jpg
https://www.reddit.com/r/swrpg/comments/132urc5/dynamicclass_freighter/
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/swtor/images/5/50/Revanchist_Sith.png/revision/latest?cb=20190617151752
https://www.reddit.com/r/kotor/comments/14q3nov/accidentally_deleted_my_game_save_files_while_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsShips/comments/wmt7yr/out_of_the_4_modified_dynamicclass_freighter/
https://www.reddit.com/r/swrpg/comments/tbkdq8/custom_dynamicclass_mk_iv_light_freighter/
https://twitter.com/TheSpaceshipper/status/1081679681911472128?lang=en
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CRMcNeill
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I am NOT digging through that mess. Please clean it up with liberal usage of [url=][/url] tags.
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Inquisitor1138
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2023 3:26 pm Post subject: WIP Dynamic-class Freighters, trues & counterfeit sizes |
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | I am NOT digging through that mess. Please clean it up with liberal usage of [url=][/url] tags. |
Don't. This is a wip/live notes, which i will be tidying up as time allows.
The bits most relevant to you & most readers is;
| Quote: | Lara Krath's Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 45 meters, Width ~44 meters, Height/depth: ~10.52 meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 24 meters, Width Roughly 22.5 meters, Height/depth: 5.38m meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 27.24 meters, Width 25.94 meters, Height/depth: ~6.2 meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 33.6 meters, Width Roughly 31.5 meters, Height/depth: ~7.53m or 7.54 meters
Counterfit/Counterfeit Dynamic-class Freighter, , Length: 38.136 meters, Width 36.316 meters, Height/depth: ~8.68 meters |
Dynamic-class Freighter
[img]https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/b4/NarShaddaaSkirmish.jpg/revision/latest[/img]
Zoomed in, width 23 cm, height 5.5cm
Ebon Hawk Map
[img]https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/swtor/images/b/b3/KotOR_2_Ebon_Hawk_shot_%289%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20150213072931[/img]
23cm/5.5cm = 4.1818181818181818181818181818182
W 40.122377622377622377622377622379m/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 9.5944816053511705685618729096993m or ~9.6m
W 38.793103448275862068965517241379m/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 9.276611694152923538230884557721m or ~9.28m
Width ~44 meters/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 10.521739130434782608695652173913m or ~10.52m
Width Roughly 22.5 meters/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 5.3804347826086956521739130434782m or 5.38m
Width 25.94 meters/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 6.2030434782608695652173913043478m or ~6.2m
Width Roughly 31.5 meters/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 7.5326086956521739130434782608695m or ~7.53m or 7.54m
Width 36.316 meters/4.1818181818181818181818181818182 = Height/depth: 8.6842608695652173913043478260869m or ~8.68m
These calculations & corrections give plenty of room for CRMcNeill's stipulated deck height of 3.1m & stuff above & below, possibly having hidden compartments nestled between ship's systems. In the larger ships, even having compartments tall enough for most humanoids to stand up in.
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