Poss new sith power.. Jun Mao

[Naaman]

Consider the battle between Yoda and Palpatine.

And a similar effect between Obi Wan and Anakin on Mustafar.

[Esoomian]

[Naaman]

I think the overall idea is appropriate and definitely in keeping with what we see in the films.

The more I think about it, the more I want to see the following criteria:

A level of risk to the user which lessens with the target's succeptibility to the lure of the dark side

A reward for the user if successful (perhaps the dark side awards him a Force point, as these are hard to come by for dark siders)

A choice on the part of the target (accept a bonus ans DSPs, or take a penalty while affected by power, or sacrifice a Force point or character points after failing to resist in order to overcome/avoid DSPs). Those are merely examples of what I might propose if it were my idea.

[garhkal]

Namman. On that first suggestion.
How would you see the 'level of risk' fade as the target is lured?

I like the potential to reward the sith who successfully uses it to draw a jedi to the sith way..
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[Esoomian]

[Naaman]

I like that idea, as well, though its not something I would have thought of, it feels pretty poiniagnt (sp?).

Garhkal, do either of these interpretations line up with your idea?

[Esoomian]

Aha I found the rule online... Actually it was in a section of the Rancor pit I had forgotten about.

[Naaman]

Oops, didn't see your post up there, Garhkal. Anyway, I would think that the level of risk would be inversely proportionate to the number of DSPs the target has, and an unknown factor: the wilpower of the target.

In my games, where willpower is available as a means of resistance, I like to add a bonus of +1 per die in control to willpower, rather than stacking the two. YMMV, but when resisting powers that target the victim's resolve, I like to reward players who actualy bother to invest in the willpower skill.

Anyway, you might grant the user a bonus to his opposed roll proportionate to the number of DSPs the target has, and provide some means (either built into this power, or by devising a separate power) to detect the amont of DSPs a character has.

Failure could be handled in a similar mamner to failure of the control roll to call upon the darkside. In this way, the dark side is portrayed as power at a price, not to be trifled with.

[Naaman]

Sorry for the double post; its really hard to edit posts on my phone. Anyway another thing that occurs to me is the idea that atoning for a real DSP always costs the character a FP. For this reason, it may be appropriate to allow the expenditure of a FP to automatically overcome the effects of this power, if the character fails to initiallt resist it. Chosing this method, however, prevents the power from working on the target until some specific created teria is met by the darksider OR you could implement the aforementioned backlash in order to prevent the darksider using this as a FP drain tactic. I keant to elaborate on that idea earlier, but just now got around to it.

[garhkal]

[Esoomian]

[Naaman]

Well, ic it works for your group, that's cool. I twnd to always play Jedi, and would not appreciate uaving DSPs thrust upon me on account of a crappy willpower roll, or worse yet, a darksider calling on the dark side for a free FP to initiate the power and virtually guaranteeing success all with no risk to self.

For me, aa character (or player) should always have a choice of whether they receive DSPs or not (usually in the form of knowing that a course of action would grant a DSP). Receiving a DSP should always be the result of a deliberate choice the character makes (such as to receive a bonus on skill rolls or attack rolls, or to kill an enemy thhat is no longer a threat just because its easier that way, etc)

[garhkal]

OK.. So here is a 2nd re-write using that 'lure of the dark side aspect..

Jun Mao (Sith power)
This is a Cont/sense/alter power
Control roll is 20 + prox + relationship
Sense is 10 + relationship
Alter is 15 + relationship
Requires: feed on dark side, cause fear, affect mind, projective telepathy and waves of darkness

When used on an opposing force user replace the base target # with an opposed control roll vice a base 20 difficulty for the control roll. Proximity and relationship still modify

If the power is successfully used, it must be maintained. On the round AFTER successfully activating the power, the Sith can start 'sharing his dark side points with the target Jedi, at the rate of 1 point per round (so if he keeps it up for 4 rounds, he can give the target 4 DSP's). These Dark side points so shared, cause the same effect upon the Jedi as if he had earned them himself in regards to the "Lure of the dark side", in that he can accept the dark side's favor (earning a dark side point and giving the Sith a force point) and gain 2d per DSP he has, to add to his force use. Or he can 'resist' the lure, taking a +5 target # penalty per DSP he has had shared with him.

When the power is dropped (or the Sith stops maintaining it) the dark side points shared with the targeted Jedi, bleed off at the same rate as gained, 1/round, but during that time still has the Lure of the dark side issue to worry about. Though if the power is no longer being maintained and the targeted Jedi earns a DSP during THIS time, the activating Sith does not gain a free force point.
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[Esoomian]

I like this version much better. It gives the player a sense of control that doesn't depend on him making good dice rolls. Essentially it allows the player to throw away his lightsaber and say "I'll never join you, you've failed your highness."

It might not be a descision that results in the player surviving but it does give him the chance to choose between death and the Dark Side.

I personally would still add in some way to break free of the power (rather than having to kill the Sith or waiting for him to get bored and stop) like wounding the Sith 'casting' it or actively resisting but even without that it seems like a decent power.
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[Naaman]

Aggreed.
This version seems much more in line with what I understand to be the primary tactic of the dark side.


Perhaps the target could be allowed the opton of a "full reaction" each round with willpower or something to try and break free.