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| Bren wrote: | | The first says, nothing will stop me from my duty - though I will pay a price sometimes. The second just says - I'm a PC and I'm too bad to take damage from blasters. Yech. :( |
That's true, but the situation changes if you downgrade the power of FPs, as you have suggested and which I agree with. If the Jedi can no longer use a FP to double all dice rolls in a round, but can only focus on a single action, and can only spend one FP per round, he can no longer double the Control roll for Control Pain and the Control and Sense rolls for LSC. He has to pick one or the other...
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| Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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So rather than leave it as is you have to make 2 rather big changes, one to FP spending and one to this power to make it how you envision..
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As an alternate possibility, perhaps a Jedi could only use this ability as a reaction skill if he spent a FP.
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Would that FP still double his control roll??
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CRMcNeill
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| garhkal wrote: | | Would that FP still double his control roll?? |
I'm up in the air about that. Alternately, he could spend a CP instead of a FP, since CPs have a much narrower effect than FPs.
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So like drop a CP for a chance at rolling it...
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| garhkal wrote: | | So like drop a CP for a chance at rolling it... |
Yeah. I'm on the fence as to whether it should be a FP or CP, because the cost seems too high for one and possibly too low for the other. I remember reading something similar in the D&D Psionics Handbook where if a character spent extra psi-points on a power he could use it as a swift action (which IIRC, bore a lot of similarities to reaction skills).
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I put things like that in my house rules all the time: alternative uses for character points during play.
It's not unheard of in the RAW, either. I believe it is the enhance attribute power that allows expenditure of a CP to extend the duration an additional round? Also, Reduce injury/ transfer force requires the sacrifice of a FP to prevent death.
This version of control pain could easily fall inline with as a "watered down" application of the same aspect of the force as reduce injury. |
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| Naaman wrote: | | This version of control pain could easily fall inline with as a "watered down" application of the same aspect of the force as reduce injury. |
Me likey. I had honestly forgotten about the CP rule for Enhance Attribute, but it is nice to know there is precedent for something like this.
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Hows about make it
Stun = 1cp
Wound = 2cp
Incap = 3cp
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You're already having to roll increased difficulty just to get Control Pain to work against damage of that level. I think a 1 CP cost is an appropriate expenditure for the speed of the action alone (i.e. bringing it up as a reaction skill).
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Would they be able to spend it if they are already on a FP for the round??
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| garhkal wrote: | | Would they be able to spend it if they are already on a FP for the round?? |
If FPs are using the RAW rules, then no, probably not (if they are doubling all dice rolls for the entire round, why would they need to?) However, if the game is using alternate rules for FPs (like Bren's suggestion of limiting FPs to a single skill or action), then I might consider allowing the character to spend a CP, but with the stipulation that it can only be used to allow the character to make the appropriate skill roll as a reaction.
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In the RAW it states that you cannot use a FP and a CP in the same round in terms of increasing die rolls. I'm not sure that they meant that you could not spend a CP in order to activate a Force power. Indeed, if you look at the words and take them as universal statements, it seems to say you can't, but such an interpretation doesn't gel well with the context.
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| cheshire wrote: | | In the RAW it states that you cannot use a FP and a CP in the same round in terms of increasing die rolls. I'm not sure that they meant that you could not spend a CP in order to activate a Force power. Indeed, if you look at the words and take them as universal statements, it seems to say you can't, but such an interpretation doesn't gel well with the context. |
True. And even if it were an absolute statement, the RAW is more what you might call guidelines than actual rules...
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