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CRMcNeill
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 Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Questions (mostly about being "spaced") |
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| Bren wrote: | | Were you wanting a different effect? |
No. I misunderstood the -1 pip part. Thanks for the explanation.
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garhkal
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Well, since medium repeaters are analogus to our M60s and 240s.. i could see going with how i did it for firearms.. where you need a min str to use it SAFELY. Each pip less than the safe rating you take a D damage to yourself when you fire AND you go up one diff level..
EG A 240C with 100 round underslung belt fed from a pouch needs a 3d+2 str to use effectively. A PC though with only a 2D+1 str needs to pick it up and shoot it. Luckly the enemy has not noticed, so only the Range/cover diff adds up. Normally he would be needing a Difficult difficulty (16-20) but with the penalty he is now in the very difficult bracket. AND even if he hits or misses, firing it, causes him 4d damage from weapon kickback.
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atgxtg
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Being able to brace the weapon, and/or a bipod should be worth a STR boost.
Although a M60 is usually classifed as a Light Machine Gun, not a medium gun. MMG tend tobe tripod weapons. Although I suppose some of he stronger aliens could get away with it. . |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Questions (mostly about being "spaced") |
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| Bren wrote: | | crmcneill wrote: | | Bren wrote: | | On the other hand, by setting a fairly high bar for the lifting and stamina requirements, as ZzaphoD did, one does away with the extra roll and rather than outright failure for characters below the lifting and stamina requirements to use the weapon instead those requirements provide a self correcting penalty included in the single to hit roll. |
The flip side is that it eliminates the possibility for a character with 2D Strength to spend a Force Point to lift and fire that medium blaster in a heroically appropriate situation. |
That's not how I read what Z propsed. If his STR and lifting are both 2D and his blaster is 3D, then using a FP his lifting is 4D for the round. The medium repeating blaster takes STR 5D. Which is 1D above his FP enhanced lifting. So he can fire the MRB but at a 4D-5D = -1D penalty to the shot. But since he used a FP his 3D blaster skill is doubled before the -1D penalty. So he can fire with a 5D skill.
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This is exactly how it works...
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Bren
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| Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Questions (mostly about being "spaced") |
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| ZzaphodD wrote: | | This is exactly how it works... |
Sometimes I can read English real good. 
Seriously, I thought it was a rather elegant way of handling the situation.  |
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garhkal
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| atgxtg wrote: | Being able to brace the weapon, and/or a bipod should be worth a STR boost.
Although a M60 is usually classifed as a Light Machine Gun, not a medium gun. MMG tend tobe tripod weapons. Although I suppose some of he stronger aliens could get away with it. . |
IIRC bipods gave a +2 boost to str, +1d+1 for tripods. There were also recoil absorbers you could purchase...
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atgxtg
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IIRC? Please clarify.
The +1D+1 for tripods seems a bit low. An average (STR 2D) human should be able to fir a MG from a tripod without penalties. Am I missing somethere here? |
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CRMcNeill
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| Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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IIRC = If I Remember Correctly
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atgxtg
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| crmcneill wrote: | | IIRC = If I Remember Correctly |
Silly me. I thought it stoop for something like II (i.e second edtion), Rules Companion or some such. |
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I correct myself. The Medium MG and Heavy MG are the only 2 which can attach tripods.
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Recoil value: +10 for burst without support/bipod. +5 with bipod, +0 if using tripod. Add 10 for full automatic.
Notes: Requires 2d+2 strength to use without bipod or support. 1d+2 with bipod. No minimum strength for use when on tripod or using a hard point mount.
HMG
Recoil value: Bursts - +15 without any form of support. +10 if on bipod, +5 if on tripod or hard mount. If going full automatic, add 10 to the above values.
Notes: Requires 3d strength to use if going handheld. Also must be taller than 6ft and weigh more than 180lb. If using bipod needs 2d+1 strength, or 2d if going with a hard mount or tripod.
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