Modifying your ship

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[Hellcat]

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hmm, could increase the rules that i put out to 10k per +1. modding is allright, but addes the mishaps, and doenst take up more tonnage
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[Hellcat]

Ah but the tonnage thing is the real problem with GG6. Posted a thread on that earlier this year (http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1685). Basically, the tonnage for replacement parts ignores the fact that you should subtract the tonnage of the part being replaced to figure out exactly how much tonnage you actually loose.

Look at it. A Class III lncom Horizon-Hopper Light Stardrive weighs 12 tons while a Class II Coreliian Avatar-I0 weighs 15 tons. If you've got a Class III on your ship as the hyperdrive manipulator (not the backup) and want to replace it with a Class II (and don't plan on making it the Class III your new backup), according to GG6 you loose 15 tons of cargo space. But that's basically claiming you're keeping the Class III. Rather, subtract the 12 tons from the 15 to figure out how much cargo space you're actually gonna loose because your actually gaining tonnage from taking out the old system then loosing that tonnage and a little extra.
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you know, that actually came up. i had the players hyperdrive get shot, so they bought an upgrade, and they were like "We arent keeping the old one, so we should not lose as much tonnage.
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[Hellcat]

It just doesn't make sense to say you loose that much tonnage. And it wouldn't have made sense for WEG to have said the new system the new one weighs what the original system weighed plus X number of tons. Replacing a no longer functional Class II with a Class II that actually works shouldn't cost any tons. And you should have to subtract the tonnage of the old system when going with a larger, more powerful system rather than loose a all that valuable tonnage.
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Good point, Hellcat.

Although it clearly is the better system, occasionally the WEG writers didn't think things all the way through...

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[Grimace]

Well, the system is by no means "perfect", nor was it expected to be able to model every star wars ship out there. Its easily conceivable that someone could construct a ship that is above and beyond what is "normally" built.

The thing is, even with CPs, you should still be able to extrapolate the costs.

If 10 CPs is 37,000 credits, then that means a Maneuvering package of 2D+2 costs 37,000 credits. Half of that would be 5 CPs, or 18,500 credits...the equivalent cost for a 1D+2 Maneuvering package. You could then use half that and a little, to account for the 3 CP cost of a 1D Maneuver package, or 9,500 credits.

Then, of course, heading up above 10 CPs is easy to figure. 3D Maneuver package would run about 38,600 credits and 4D Maneuver package would cost you 45,000.

So a final cost list would be:
1D = 9,500 credits
1D+2 = 18,500 credits
2D+2 = 37,000 credits
3D = 38,600 credits
4D = 45,000 credits

Mind you, this isn't official, but since nothing exists "officially" for standard maneuvering packages, you're going to either have to make something up or do some serious tearing apart of a starships cost to figure out what a maneuver system would be. Even then, you'll find exactly what I did, and that Star Wars ships cannot easily be broken down into components for purchase that make sense all around.

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cool, thanks
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Just remember the rules are just a guidline for use to use they are not set in stone. More so in the Star Wars System.

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