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Tupteq
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are using -1D (or more) untrained modifier (instead of +5), it is similar to present untrained modifiers (-2D for use swoop without skill and possibly some more) and matches to untrained modifier in D6 Space. In some situations it does apply, in other not. We usually use a common sense to determine when to apply it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esoomian wrote:
So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)?


Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that makes more sense although I'm not sure if I prefer +5 difficulty or -1D
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like +5 difficulty myself. -1D, while mechanically similar, takes away the idea of "natural aptitude" the attribute levels are intended to represent in an effort you've never tried before. Taking 1D off of that kind of goes along the idea of your attribute core being an ideal concept of your natural aptitude that you can't quite attain Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its funny, my players like rolling lots of dice. so they would prefer to up the difficulty rather then lose dice.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vong wrote:
its funny, my players like rolling lots of dice. so they would prefer to up the difficulty rather then lose dice.


OH YEAH!

We even keep rolling long after we made the difficulty to see by how much we made it. MORE DICE!!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually up the difficulty, I find that players still put the attempt and plus they like to roll lots of dice don't want to take that enjoyment from them.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea. its hard to do that though when some players are way better then others at things, so its impossible for anyone but that character to do anything. granted in a pbp method its allright, but when you meet, and a player is abscent, the party is SOL Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tupteq wrote:
Esoomian wrote:
So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)?


Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations.


The problem is you are now using a double standard.
-1D for non-Verpine and basically -3D for Verpine
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm, kinda yea. but you can say that verpine are good at what they have been trained at, they pick it up fast, but until they have some training, its the standard rules.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't advise setting a double standard. You run the risk of breaking the game and overcomplicating things.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

true, some thing the simplest way to go, is the best.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

awfulalex wrote:
Tupteq wrote:
Esoomian wrote:
So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)?


Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations.


The problem is you are now using a double standard.
-1D for non-Verpine and basically -3D for Verpine


That's not what I was saying at all. It would be -1D for non verpine and +1D for verpine (as -1D + 2D =1D)

Assuming Verpine get their bonus for untrained skills and untrained skills are used at a standard -1D.

However I prefer the +5 to difficulty rather than -1D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tupteq wrote:
Esoomian wrote:
So would you give a verpine just +1D on technical skills thay had not trained in (+2D -1D)?


Not exactly. +2D to all tech skills is very powerful, so to cripple it a little bit this bonus doesn't apply when plain TECH is used (untrained skills). Which means that verpine rolls just TECH-1D in such situations.


Sorry Esoomian I was not refering to your post but to Tupteq. I agree with your app either one would be ok. I would just not set various standards and if I go up diff route I would do it for everyone and every skill.
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