Droid Questions: Orginal 2nd Ed versus 2nd R&E

[Ankhanu]

[Esoomian]

[Ankhanu]

Haha, true enough

[FightingCorsair]

Here's a related question.

Where can I find the prices for droid upgrades. The books mention being able to purchase skill upgrade packages but I can't find any listed prices.

Some of my players want droids to compliment lack of crew on their ships. They're looking to get stock droids then modify them to suit they're needs.

[Ankhanu]

Cynabar's Fantastic Technology: Droids
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[garhkal]

This is what the Sparks Group uses.. Ignore the parts that says per module..
Upgrading Droids

1. Traitware may not be upgraded.
2. Skillware
a. One pip per module
b. Maximum of 9D above attribute score
c. One attempt to raise a skill may be made per skill per month
d. Maximum skill rating:
i. The primary skill may be raised to 13D maximum
ii. The secondary skills may be raised to 12D maximum
iii. All other skills may be raised to 10D maximum
e. PC Costs:
i. 100 credits per character point cost of raising skill
ii. Any other service charge decided by PC
f. NPC Charges are per pip, in credits (guaranteed success, skillware provided)
i. +1, +2, +1D improvement; Cost 1,000
ii. 1D+1, 1D+2, +2D improvement; Cost 2,500
iii. 2D+1, 2D+2, +3D improvement; Cost 5,000
iv. 3D+1, 3D+2, +4D improvement; Cost 7,500
v. 4D+1, 4D+2, +5D improvement; Cost 10,000
vi. 5D+1, 5D+2, +6D improvement; Cost 15,000
vii. 6D+1, 6D+2, +7D improvement; Cost 20,000
viii. 7D+1, 7D+2, +8D improvement; Cost 25,000
ix. 8D+1, 8D+2, +9D improvement; Cost 30,000
g. Difficulty (based on skill rating over base attribute rating)
i. +1, +2, +1D improvement; Easy droid programming roll
ii. 1D+1, 1D+2, +2D improvement; Moderate droid programming roll
iii. 2D+1, 2D+2, +3D improvement; Difficult droid programming roll
iv. 3D+1, 3D+2, +4D improvement; Very Difficult droid programming roll
v. 4D+1, 4D+2, +5D improvement; Heroic droid programming roll
vi. 5D+1, 5D+2, +6D improvement; Easy droid engineering roll
vii. 6D+1, 6D+2, +7D improvement; Moderate droid engineering roll
viii. 7D+1, 7D+2, +8D improvement; Difficult droid engineering roll
ix. 8D+1, 8D+2, +9D improvement; Very Difficult droid engineering roll
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[enderandrew]

I always treated stun weapons as doing ionization damage to droids, and ion weapons as doing stun weapons to living creatures.

The way I see it, a stun weapon is using concussion, which should be treated as normal, yet physical damage (which isn't the case) or the weapon is using an ionized attack to stun you by temporarily damaging your nervous system.
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[Lostboy]

Ion weapons do normal damage to lifeforms as they are not made to handle charged partical beams that would mearly short out a machine

Stun weapons are not concussion based like convensional flashbangs they fire electro magnetic pulses that are designed to disrupt the neurves system and bio electric feild. Machines are uneffected because they are not vulnerable to emp like our technology due to there solid state design.

[enderandrew]

Star Wars technology has always seemed very analog, very nuts and bolts, perhaps because it comes from 1977. We see R2 getting fried and overloaded from plugging into a power socket. We see physical media being inserted into him, and him displaying a holographic recording with analog distortion.

I wouldn't describe that technology as anything like solid state. The droids have trouble dealing with sand, need oil baths, etc. If anything it seems like Star Wars technology still revolves heavily on moving mechanical parts, electricity, magnetic media, etc.

Static charges should hurt droids in my opinion.
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[cheshire]

That's a fair point, and creates an in-universe explanation.

Fortunately, I've never had to make a ruling on this for players, but I would probably cut the damage roll in half if a player was targeting an organic.
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[ZzaphodD]

[Raven Redstar]

If you take a look in Cynabar's Fantastic Technology: Droids, page 39, top of the 2nd column. The other way of doing it, rather than 25D, with maximums of 13D, minimums of 0D, you allow for a player to spend anywhere from 3,000 - 5,000 Credits on Traitware, Skillware, and attachments, including movement. The 2nd way makes a little more sense to me, even though the possibilities are there to abuse, it's a little more flexible than just spending D.

Another possibility is to let the player pick a standard droid body, deduct that cost from their 3-5,000 then let them use the remaining to customize an already existing model droid. Just a few ideas, the one time my GM let me play a droid type character, he gave me a cash budget.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

[ZzaphodD]