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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:44 pm    Post subject: Light Carrier from SW Rebels Reply with quote

Has anyone thrown up stats for the imperial light carrier from the Rebels cartoon? Didn't find it on search of the Pit.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean the QuasarFire carrier that got canonized? You can find it in the Truce at Bakura sourcebook, pages 112-113.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe you speak of gozanti class

in th case, shootingwomprats make rebels saison 1 sourcebook:
http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5668&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Sutehp have it too in documents :
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0By9UuUWWH6CiTXc2dWduY1N1Ymc
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Ning was asking about the Arquitens? Yeah, that's a light cruiser, not a light carrier, though it can carry a flight (around 4) of TIEs. Generally if you call a ship a carrier, it has to carry alot more fighters than just a half-dozen or so.

Just because you can carry a few fighters, that doesn't make you a carrier. To be a carrier, you have to be able to carry LOTS of fighters (or be infected with a disease while not being affected by the symptoms, but that's a different kind of carrier). Shocked Shocked Shocked Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strictly in terms of size and armament, the Arquitens is actually a Corvette.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In SWRe's the Imperial Light Cruiser is a modified version of the Arquitens-class light cruiser.

Aruitens-class Command Cruiser, better known as an Imperial Light Cruiser is equipped with: 4 Quad laser turrets (SWRe1.14), 1 Tractor beam projector (SWRe 2.08), 8 escape craft (from concept art shared on starwars.com), could carry: 3 TIE/IN interceptors(SWRe 3.04), 2 TIE/ln (SWRe 2.14), or 2 TIE/sa bombers (SWRe 3.12-13).

Oddly the Arquitens-class light cruiser required 4 pilots (TCW 3.02) and was equipped with 4 Quad laser turrets, 4 Dual turbolaser cannons, 4 Missile tubes, 50 troops (TCW 3.02).

There is also the Imperial Era retrofit Gozanti-class cruiser, better known as an Imperial freighter. It is equipped with: 1 Dorsal twin laser cannon turret (SWRe 1.04), 1 Ventral heavy laser cannon turret (SWRe 1.04), may externally mount: 2 All Terrain Armored Transports (SWRe 2.12), 2 All Terrain Defense Pods (SWRe 1.03), 4 TIE/ln (SWRe 1.04), or 4 TIE/ln and 1 TIE/sa bomber (SWRe 3.08), as well as 1 Stormtrooper squad (SWRe visual guide).

Both ships are listed in the Star Wars Rebels Season One Sourcebook.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I think it's the quasarfire. I'm referring to the light carrier that the rebels steal from the imperials over Ryloth. It becomes the flagship of their cell's fleet.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After looking at the quasarfire im not sure that's it. The ship in the sourcebook is a modified bulk Cruiser and the vessel I'm describing is Imperial-made. Unless the show just took the design and scrapped everything else.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ning Leihrec wrote:
Yes I think it's the quasarfire. I'm referring to the light carrier that the rebels steal from the imperials over Ryloth. It becomes the flagship of their cell's fleet.


In Legends the ship is the Quasar Fire-class cruiser-carrier, also known as an Alliance escort carrier. The ship was a modified Quasar Fire-class bulk cruiser, chosen for its modular construction and ease of customization.

In Canon, it is the Quasar Fire-class cruiser-carrier used by the Imperial Navy. If I remember correctly, I started with the stats of the
Virgillian Quasar Fire Cruiser-Carrier found in Starships Stats (page 228). I then created the stats based on observation of SWRe's and canon sources. You can find it in the Star Wars Rebels Season One Sourcebook.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see it in the SWReb season 1 sourcebook. Am I overlooking it?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ning Leihrec wrote:
I don't see it in the SWReb season 1 sourcebook. Am I overlooking it?


I am sorry , it is in SWRe2 and that has not been released yet.

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Quasar Firce-Class Cruiser-Carrier
Craft: SoroSuub Quasar Fire-class Cruiser-Carrier
Type: Cruiser/carrier
Scale: Capital
Length: 340 meters
Skill: Capital ship piloting: Quasar Fire cruiser-carrier
Crew: 96, gunners: 8, skeleton: 1/+15
Crew Skill: Capital ship gunnery 4D, capital ship piloting 4D, capital ship shields 4D, starship gunnery 4D
Passengers: 140
Cargo Capacity: None
Consumables: 1 year
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x2
Hyperdrive Backup: x12
Nav Computer: Yes
Maneuverability: 0D
Space: 5
Hull: 3D+2
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
-- Passive: 30/1D+1
-- Scan: 60/2D
-- Search: 90/2D+1
-- Focus: 3/3D+1
Weapons:
2 Light Turbolasers

-- Fire Arc: Left/front/right
-- Scale: Starfighter
-- Crew: 4
-- Skill: Capital ship gunnery
-- Fire Control: 1D+2
-- Space Range: 1-5/10/14
-- Damage: 3D
2 Tractor Beam Projectors
-- Fire Arc: Turret (front, left, right)
-- Scale: Starfighter
-- Crew: 1
-- Skill: Starship gunnery
-- Fire Control: 4D
-- Space Range: 1-5/15/30
-- Damage: 4D
Game Notes:
-- (2) squadrons (24 fighters).
-- (4) Docking bays.

Source: wookieepedia, Starship Stats Virgillian Quasar Fire Cruiser-Carrier” (p.228), tweaks by +Oliver Queen.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a feeling you'd worked up stats on this one. Thanks! Zero cargo capacity? What's your reasoning for that? Looking forward to this sourcebook.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gotta copy this one down later after a good night's sleep (and after the Climate March 9 hours from now).

But yeah, no cargo space makes some sense, because this this is basically a flying hangar and not much else.
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh, I finally got around to copying the stats for this and I compared it to what's written down in the Truce of Bakura Sourcebook and I think Shootingwomprats got the fighter complement wrong. The Sourcebook says that it can hold 48 fighters (4 squadrons) while Oliver's stats say it can only hold 24 fighters (2 squadrons). I'd expect a starfighter carrier, even one as relatively small as the Quasar Fire, to be able to hold at least 3 squadrons of 36 fighters. Certainly 4 squadrons of 48 fighters, as detailed in the TAB Sourcebook, doesn't seem unreasonable. But only 2 squadrons sounds low to me. I can understand if the Rebels in SWRe only managed to scrounge up 2 squadrons to put into their carrier, but I can't believe that was the ship's full capacity.

(See, Shootingwomprats? My editing skills are already paying off. Mr. Green )

EDIT: Something else: I was trying to figure out what that floating-by-itself "(p. 228)" page reference was for. Then I realized it was for the D20-to-D6 Conversion Starship book. And it says the Quasar Fire can hold 48 fighters as well.

EDIT 2: Wait, does that say a skeleton crew of 1 person??? Am I reading that right?
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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2017 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:
I gotta copy this one down later after a good night's sleep (and after the Climate March 9 hours from now).

But yeah, no cargo space makes some sense, because this this is basically a flying hangar and not much else.


If there's no cargo space where are the proton torpedo and concussion missile reloads for the starfighters kept?

On warships cargo space isn't used for shipping merchandise.
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