Stamina in Lightsaber Combat

[Bren]

[CRMcNeill]

Hadn't really considered armor, and not really sure if I want to, but if I had to, I would probably do a penalty to Stamina equal to the Armor's Dex penalty.

I can see how it would get complicated calculating all that stuff in. Mostly what I'm looking at is four different roll groupings per round: 1). Initiative, 2). The psychological roll (using my Dun Moch rules), 3). The combat roll (using opposed lightsaber rolls, since I'm using a Dueling Blades variation), and 4). The stamina roll.

Part 1 would happen anyways, while Part 2 is optional, and requires two rolls per character (Force skill rolls to determine the forced based bonuses to the appropriate skills, and the skill rolls themselves), which determine skill penalties for Parts 3 and 4.

Part 3 requires a single combat roll (assuming neither character is trying to parry blaster bolts or duel more than one opponent).

Part 4 requires a single stamina roll, along with calculating the escalating difficulty modifier, but the stamina roll is a free action, so it doesn't count towards a MAP.

In summary, a single combat round would take 5 rolls (2 of which are free actions), and would only result in a -2D MAP if either side chose to make a psychological attack, so both opponents would have to decide if the -2D MAP for performing a Dun Moch attack is worth it. They could potentially reduce the MAP to -1D by choosing to go defensive and gamble that their opponent won't attack, but that is never a guarantee.

The most complicated roll would be the psychological portion, and the book-keeping for the Stamina roll would be basic math. It might be a little complicated starting out, but then, any new system is until you get used to it. Of course, I won't know if I'm happy with it until I've play tested it a little bit.
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[Esoomian]

Given how much combat already tends to slow down gameplay I'd go for a very simple system indeed.

Something like a character can act unimpared for a number of rounds equal to the number of pips they have in stamina (so a character with a strength of 4D and nothing extra in stamina could act for 3x4 or 12 rounds before getting fatigued). After they've hit their limit they get a one pip penalty every round until they rest.

However if you ever have the advantage in a fight and choose not to press it (Say you knock someone back or down and don't immediately follow up) then that counts as resting and your counter resets.

That way fights can be more dramatic with someone gaining the upper hand but choosing instead to rest and be fresh for the next round the other combatant doesn't get the same rest and is still building up fatigue.
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[CRMcNeill]

[Esoomian]

Fair enough I just worry that making duels longer and involving more dice rolls could create a situation like this.

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[CRMcNeill]

[atgxtg]

[Bren]

[Esoomian]

I believe Roman soldiers also trained with weapons that were much heavier than the ones they weilded in battle so when it came to fighting it was actually easier than their training... unless you count that tree stumps and training dummies don't fight back.
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Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.

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[Bren]

[CRMcNeill]

Their drills were bloodless battles and their battles bloody drills.
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"No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.

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[Esoomian]

On a sight side note I was thinking that perhaps for characters who use melee weapons it should be possible to purchase training weapons which were heavy and unweildy so they were difficult to use but after you'd used the training weapons for a few battles it then cost less character points to advance in melee skills because actually using regular weapons was so much easier to do.
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Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.

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[Bren]

[atgxtg]

[Bren]

atgxtg - your quotes are messed up. [Never mind.*]

But I agree that RQI and II had a much more ancient feel - which I greatly preferred. RQIII fixed some things, improved a couple of things, and complicated almost everything. And I never really got a good feel from the Loskalmi and their Western brethern - much prefer the Lunars, Orlanthi, and Praxians.

Regarding armor, to be honest I'm not sure about the relative weights of the various armors. I know medieval armor was decided for quite a bit of freedom of motion and knights were supposed to be able to jump into the saddle unaided (contrary to depictions of 15C tilting armor). Certainly medieval knights expected (generally) to ride into battle, though they did slog on foot in some battles. And those Roman Scutums are pretty darn heavy (as are hopolite shields in RQIII). But enough about Runequest.

Regarding stamina - simple is better, I think.

* Edited 'cause he fixed it.