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Azai
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 Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: NPC Collective |
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Heyo.
So I was thinking of getting together all the NPCs, into one PDF. Separated by factions such as Rebels, Empire, Criminal, Republic, Etc.
I was wondering if anyone was interested in this project? Also, I can do a lot of the leg work with openoffice, and other writing documents I just don't have the tools to combine things into a PDF. |
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Riij Skootu
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<--- Very Interested.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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As in the book NPCs? That would be super cool but a lot of work.
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TyCaine
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Agreed, that would be excellent, but I cannot even think how much work that is......
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| jmanski wrote: | | As in the book NPCs? That would be super cool but a lot of work. |
I think it's a super cool idea but then (assuming you didn't go completely insane in the assembly process) the end result would probably be completely overwhelming. Once you break it down by faction, what then? Alphabetize? Somehow categorize the NPCs? If you did ALL of the NPCs, then you'd have to break it down further and have that information in a manageable format. I'm looking at the 30+ books on my shelf and thinking of how many NPCs there are in each one. And not all of them are particularly useful for the average game.
If I were doing a project like that, I'd be selective. Take the things that are going to be most useful in a broad range of games and compile them. Make it so they'd be easily printed off and hole punched on a 1/4 sheet of paper. You could slip it into a binder if you punched the holes right, and have some standard go-to npcs in a binder.
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Raven Redstar
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I think it's a great idea. I honestly wish I had the time to assist you. I'd like to see what you get done when you finish. |
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Azai
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I think what I will do, is start first with the Rebel Alliance, The Empire, and the larger criminal elements. I think my first idea is to get the "stock" npcs done first. And get that out.
Stuff like Stormtroopers, Storm Commando's, Rebel Cell members. One of the questions though is sometimes stats are different depending on which source book you are looking at. So feedback will be great to take what version over what.
Also for the Sages to D6 this community has done, I'll be wanting to put those in the book too. That stock npcs that were coverted
After I get all that taken care I'd probably move on to named characters. Starting first with the big names, and then eventually getting to the ones even I don't know about (I honestly haven't thumbed through every single pdf I have and all the npcs there is. I know there is a lot.)
But the goal for me right now is to get all the stock people done. That is what I want.
Essentially all it will be is an openoffice document unless someone who can make pdfs assist. I don't have that equipment  . But I suppose once I have some work actually done, someone might be able to something with it. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| I think the NPC guide is a great idea. If I could make another suggestion, also adding what era they are used in, and that might even result in multiple NPC stats as they age over the years. |
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| Mythosaur wrote: | | I think the NPC guide is a great idea. If I could make another suggestion, also adding what era they are used in, and that might even result in multiple NPC stats as they age over the years. |
I agree with this, i think era should be the first divide and then faction. Obviously the rebellion era would be mostly just compiling, other eras would make use of fan created material or require some generation.
I think it is a great idea overall and brilliant someone is starting it, though will take a lot of work but could eventually get to the stage were only EU additions would be required |
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Azai
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For the VIPs I was thinking that would be the best idea. So if someone wanted to have A new hope Luke compared to Return of the Jedi, or beyond Luke. Though the VIPs will be the second phase.
Right now I'm working on the stock.
Rebellion
Empire
Independent
Republic
Separatist
I am just going through and making a list on how many stock npcs are there, and where I am getting their stats from. I'll post that when the list is done. |
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Azai
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The Alliance to Restore the Republic
Rebel Soldier (Trilogy Sourcebook)
Rebel Pilots (Trilogy Sourcebook)
Rebel Cell Member (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Rebel Marksman (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Rebel Honor Guard (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Resistance Leader (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Rogue Squadron Pilot (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
SpecForce Urban Guerilla Veteran(Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
SpecForce Infiltrator Veteran (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
SpecForce Marine Veteran (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
SpecForce Marine (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
SpecForce Officer(Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
SpecForce Pathfinders (Rebel Alliance Sourcebook)
SpecForce Wilderness (Rebel Alliance Sourcebook)
SpecForce Technicians (Rebel Alliance Sourcebook)
SpecForce Infiltrators (Rebel Alliance Sourcebook)
SpecForce Heavy Weapons Crew (Rebel Alliance Sourcebook)
Rebel Pilots (Galaxy Guide 1)
Rebel Soldiers (Galaxy Guide 1)
Echo Base Trooper (Galaxy Guide 3)
Snowspeeder Pilot (Galaxy Guide 3)
Mon Calamari Crewman (Galaxy Guide 5)
Rebel Commandos (Galaxy Guide 5)
Rebel Sea Commando (Dark Side Empire Sourcebook)
Bothan Spynet Operative (Shadows of the Empire Sourcebook)
The Empire
Desert Stormtroopers (Galaxy Guide 1)
Shadow Stormtroopers (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Novatrooper (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Seatrooper (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Spacetrooper (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Storm Commando (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Swamptrooper (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Death Star Officers (Galaxy Guide 1)
Death Star Troopers (Galaxy Guide 1)
Death Star Gunners (Galaxy Guide 1)
TIE Pilots (Galaxy Guide 1)
Imperial Cold Assault Stormtrooper (Galaxy Guide 3)
AT-AT Walker Pilots (Galaxy Guide 3)
AT-AT Walker Gunner (Galaxy Guide 3)
Star Destroyer Officer (Galaxy Guide 3)
Imperial royal Guard (Galaxy Guide 5)
Biker Scouts (Galaxy Guide 5)
Tatooine Stormtroopers ( Galaxy Guide 7)
Imperial Radiation Zone Troopers (Galaxy Guide 9)
Imperial Stormtroopers (Trilogy Sourcebook)
Desert Sands Senior Officer (Trilogy Sourcebook)
Imperial Pilot (Imperial Sourcebook)
Imperial Gunner (Imperial Sourcebook)
Imperial Naval Trooper (Imperial Sourcebook)
Imperial Army Trooper (Imperial Sourcebook)
Veteran Imperial Army Trooper (Imperial Sourcebook)
Imperial Army Assault Trooper (Imperial Sourcebook)
Veteran Imperial Army Assault Trooper (Imperial Sourcebook)
Stormtrooper Scout (Imperial Sourcebook)
Imperial Dungeoneers (Dark Side Empire Sourcebook)
Imperial Sovereign Protectors (Dark Side Empire Sourcebook)
Imperial Sentinels (Dark Side Empire Sourcebook)
Independent
Tusken Raider (Galaxy Guide 1)
Jawa (Galaxy Guide 1)
Ugnaught Cloud City (Galaxy Guide 2)
Wing Guard Pilot (Galaxy Guide 2)
Wing Guard Officer (Galaxy Guide 2)
Wing Guard Member (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Wing Guard Customs Official (Galaxy Guide 2)
Gamorrean Guard (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Defiler (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Weequay Mercenaries (Galaxy Guide 5)
Mos Eisley Militia (Galaxy Guide 7)
Mos Eisley Police Officer (Galaxy Guide 7)
Typical Guard (Galaxy Guide 7)
First Sun Mobile Trooper (Galaxy Guide 9)
Churhee's Riflemen Trooper (Galaxy Guide 9)
Laramus Base Irregulars Trooper (Galaxy Guide 9)
Ailon Nova Badge Trooper (Galaxy Guide 9)
The Khuiumin Survivors (Galaxy Guide 9)
Thalassian Slaver (Galaxy Guide 9)
Thalassian Fighter Pirates (Galaxy Guide 9)
Thalassian Fighter (Galaxy Guide 9)
The Skulls (Galaxy Guide 9)
The Knights (Galaxy Guide 9)
Bloodsniffer (Galaxy Guide 9)
Espo Trooper (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Espo Elite Trooper (Rebel Era Campaign Guide)
Espo Officer (Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook)
Espo Picket Fleet Trooper (Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook)
IRD Pilot (Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook)
Bodyguard for Ploovo (Han Solo and the Corporate Sector Sourcebook)
Scavenger (Dark Side Empire Sourcebook)
Swoop Trooper (Shadows of the Empire Sourcebook)
The Grand Army of the Republic
Clone Trooper (Galaxy Guide 15)
Clone Sergeant (Galaxy Guide 15)
Clone Lieutenant (Galaxy Guide 15)
Clone Captain (Galaxy Guide 15)
Clone Commander (Galaxy Guide 15)
Clone Pilot (Galaxy Guide 15)
The Confederacy of Independent Systems
B1 Battle Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
B2 Battle Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
B3 Battle Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
BX Battle Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
IG-100 MagnaGuard (Separatists Sourcebook)
Droideka (Separatists Sourcebook)
Tactical Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Dwarf Spider Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Crab Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Octuptarra Combat Tri-Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Tri-Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Homing Spider Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Hailfire Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Tank Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Vulture Droid (Separatists Sourcebook)
Hyena Bomber (Separatists Sourcebook)
Tri-Fighter (Separatists Sourcebook)
So this is the list I have of the first phase of NPCs I am going to tackle. I listed where I will be getting their stats, though if anyone has any thoughts on perhaps I should take these stats from here over those from over there I am more then willing to listen.
Essentially in goes Galaxy Guides First, Sourcebooks Second, and then everything else after that. In where I decide to take the stats from.
Also my goal is not to include a lot of droids in the NPCs, unless they fall into being stated out in a "typical" or "average" way. And since the CIS is very popular, also with the clone wars series, I figured it'd help if people could have a book they could easily flip through to find battle droid stats
Also if I am missing any stock NPC please tell me, and where I can find it. I want this book to be as complete as possible. (As in I hate Reborn Empire timeline. But, despite this, I can't exclude the npcs within it. As much as I want to.) |
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TyCaine
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Looks great from an initial review! I can't wait to see this complete! 
Not sure I agree with GG first, then sourcebooks, but I may be in a minority here and I'm not sure I can quantify 'why', so for now I'll keep my unformed opinion to myself...
Just as an aside when dividing things up, would all the Stormtrooper types be grouped together? Since basically I always saw them as all being Stormtroopers, just with different specializations, rather than being separate.
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Henrik.Balslev
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I would definately be interested in a book like that - but I'm afraid I wont have time to help assemble it 
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Looks pretty comprehensive. The only thing that stood out to me was that you referenced the Rebel Era Campaign Guide for some NPCs, specifically things like Spacetroopers and Storm Commandos that actually appeared in the original WEG material. I'm not exactly sure what the Rebel Era Campaign Guide is, but the stats provided in the original WEG books are closer to the 'horse's mouth", as it were.
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Azai
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| Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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One thing I noticed about the Galaxy Guides compared to a lot of the other WEG material, is it is... How do I put it.... Weaker? Or the units in GG don't have very high skills.
Though I am still debating whether I should go GG then Sourcebooks, or Sourcebook then GG if there is a repeat in them.
I don't know if this is keeping it closer to "Ideal" or "realistic" or not with going with the lower stats, as some of the sourcebooks have very good stats for some of its VIPs and some NPCs
Also my goal is to group similiar units in the same area. Stormtroopers, SpecForce, Criminal thugs, etc.
I also want to divide it like
Era - Rise of the Empire - Battle of Yavin
Rebel/Empire/etc
Era Battle of Hoth - Return of the Jedi
Rebel/Empire/Etc
Clone Wars - Rise of the Empire
Republic/CIS/etc
That is what I am thinking of doing.
Also with the Rebel Era Campaign guide I noticed that too(As I looked at the conversions first, GG second, and then sourcebooks last.) I am gonna compare the stats and go with the sourcebook if they are different. |
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