Character Limits

Henrik.Balslev · Commander Joined: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 278 Location: Denmark

ok what I'm going for here is this. Do you limit your players characters in any way ? An example I remember from the 2nd edition book was something along the lines of "I dont care if the race is allowed 7D strenght, I'm not allowing your character to have that high strenght"

One of the reasons I'm asking is because if the question about Rules for High-Level Characters. Personally I have no problem telling a player that he can't add any more CP's to a certain skill or ability, even (or maybe especially) including force skills if I feel it will unbalance the game, and make the game less enjoyable for the other players. I usually try to keep skill levels around 7-8D max, as I feel that skill level is more than enough to make any character exeptional. As for Abilities I've never come across a player maxing out all his scores, but if someone wanted to do that I would again tell him no, noone is ever the best he/she can be in every single field Smile

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CRMcNeill · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject:

Well, the limited number of CPs seems to be a perfectly reasonable limiting factor. Players can disperse them to their characters however they want, but they must then pay the consequences if they encounter situations their character isn't prepared for. It works that way in the real world, too; that's how you get computer geeks who have massive skill in computer operations, yet no social skills worth speaking of.
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garhkal · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:58 pm Post subject:

The only real limiter i have used was 9d is what you can cap out at without having more than just CP to spend.. to take it beyond that, you need a lot more time/training.
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Ankhanu · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:05 pm Post subject:

Only limits I've imposed have related to character creation, and sometimes requiring in-game reasons why a skill (or attribute) would be raised. If there is justification, it's all good. I'm also not super free with CP rewards, sticking to more classic conservative pay outs as outlined in the book. It takes a LONG time to get to excessive skill levels if CPs are handed out in a trickle rather than a flood, and it works quite nicely.
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ZzaphodD · Rear Admiral Joined: 28 Nov 2009 Posts: 2426

I dont remember such a line from the 2nd ed rev rulebook.

I allow my Players to spend CPs as they wish. If my games are such that min/maxing is a viable option than that is really my problem.
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CRMcNeill · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject:

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CRMcNeill · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject:

Yeah. It's simpler just to assume that training time takes "as long as it takes" and simply say that it occurs between missions.

It'd be interesting if there were rules for allowing characters to "level up" mid-mission, where CPs were granted for actions as they occurred, and the character experienced that "moment of revelation" that increased their skill level.
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garhkal · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:22 am Post subject:

Most games i have played in, as long as you use the skill you raise, you are considered to have trained it. Otherwise training as been as normal (usually done off camera, IF there is time between missions)..
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Random Numbers · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:18 am Post subject:

I hate training times. They just screw with your character advancement and are seldom realistic anyway. Training times are for special plot skills, that you don't want the players to learn instantly just to pass a problem. That said I'm not against instantly raising you dodge skill to avoid that killing headshot from an E-web.
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jmanski · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:47 am Post subject:

raising skills should be done in between adventures, and the CP to raise them should be the limiting factor in going to high (that and the fact that other skills are being neglected)
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ZzaphodD · Rear Admiral Joined: 28 Nov 2009 Posts: 2426

I allow players to use CPs whenever they want for their characters... We seldom have any 'between-time' as the adventures usally tie into eachother.
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jmanski · Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject:

Exactly. Throw in obstacles to climb over, people to con, languages to speak, etc. A character should have strengths and weaknesses, but he should be trying to improve his weaknesses and not relying on his strengths.
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