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The problem isn't with the bullet proof monkey...it's with the humans who think they are also bullet proof monkeys.
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| Praxian wrote: | | Keep in mind, if someone is planning on using Bola's on a wookie, it's a good bet that they've also reinforced the bonds so that brute force won't work as easy. |
Or had the wire coated with toxin to make him/her helpless. Or using stun wire.
| Quote: | | Potentially, although I'd still allow a dodge with a penalty... the good old fall over on purpose. |
If he is already down (which most netting/entraping attacks cause), he cannot do that.
| Quote: | | That should do it, although combined action stun blasters should also work if you bring enough troops. |
Yup. 3 additional people = one bonus die by the R&E rules. Having a full squad (12 men inc officer and heavy gunner) gives 4d bonus to the damage.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Random Numbers wrote: | | The problem isn't with the bullet proof monkey...it's with the humans who think they are also bullet proof monkeys. |
Hear hear!
Well put. The wookie can stand out in the middle of the gun fight, but the rest of the characters should really duck behind something.
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Esoomian
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| Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| garhkal wrote: | | Praxian wrote: | | Keep in mind, if someone is planning on using Bola's on a wookie, it's a good bet that they've also reinforced the bonds so that brute force won't work as easy. |
Or had the wire coated with toxin to make him/her helpless. Or using stun wire. |
Resisting toxins and stun is still a strength roll. I'd be less inclined to use contact toxins against wookiees as I'd consider their dense fur to be somewhat of a defence. Not a reliable defence but perhaps a +1 on the resist roll. Even without the +1 high strength still helps here. Actually clothing would probably make a resonable defence here too.
| Quote: | Potentially, although I'd still allow a dodge with a penalty... the good old fall over on purpose.
| garhkal wrote: | | If he is already down (which most netting/entraping attacks cause), he cannot do that. |
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Again I wouldn't consider a net or a bola to be an instant fall. A called shot to the legs with a bola while the target was running would (if successful) mean they'd need to make a dex check to stay upright. For a net, those are usually weighted so I'd be inclined to make it a strength check to stay upright.
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| Quote: | | Again I wouldn't consider a net or a bola to be an instant fall. A called shot to the legs with a bola while the target was running would (if successful) mean they'd need to make a dex check to stay upright. For a net, those are usually weighted so I'd be inclined to make it a strength check to stay upright. |
Most entanglement weapons i have seen say if target is hit, they go down unless they make a dex check. not str...
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| atgxtg wrote: | | Just have a squad of Stormtroopers focus on the "invulnerable" Wookiee once or twice, and let the wild die do it thing. Within a week or two the Wookiee will be diving behind cover like everyone else. |
Quoted for truth.
Everything's luck runs out, in due time, so will the Wookies'.
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| Revenant wrote: | | atgxtg wrote: | | Just have a squad of Stormtroopers focus on the "invulnerable" Wookiee once or twice, and let the wild die do it thing. Within a week or two the Wookiee will be diving behind cover like everyone else. |
Quoted for truth.
Everything's luck runs out, in due time, so will the Wookies'. |
I found that out the hard way. Had a Wook character with 6D STR almost get killed by a grenade at long range (2D damage). I rolled a one on the wild die and the GM rolled several sixes. Next thing I knew, I was mortally wounded, hoping that the rest of the group would get to me in time.
After that I stopped feeling invincible and started using cover, carrying a medpac, plus one of each type of grenade I could get my paws on. I'd have bought a blast vest if I could have found one in my size. |
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| atgxtg wrote: | | After that I stopped feeling invincible and started using cover, carrying a medpac, plus one of each type of grenade I could get my paws on. I'd have bought a blast vest if I could have found one in my size. |
I can see it now...
Wookie: "Rrrhhhoooowwwrrrrr"
Human Character: "he says do you have blast vests in XXXXXXXL?"
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garhkal
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I actually see wookies more needing LONG vests not large ones... now a gamorean, trandoshan, or barbell....
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| jmanski wrote: | | Random Numbers wrote: | | The problem isn't with the bullet proof monkey...it's with the humans who think they are also bullet proof monkeys. |
Hear hear!
Well put. The wookie can stand out in the middle of the gun fight, but the rest of the characters should really duck behind something. |
I would also point out that those who play wookies probably enjoy being the i meatbag in combat and wouldn't find it hilarious being knocked out of action all the time. Even a wookie is going to have a few bad rolls now and then.
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| random numbers wrote: | Even a wookie is going to have a few bad rolls now and then.
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Not according some folks.
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Or the gm's of 'those wookies' are a little lax.
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This may be a big part of it....
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| Strange, with us wookies and other powerful speices tend to get a tougher time of it. The bad guys tend to shoot more at the berserk wookiee than the kid with the slingshot. |
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On the flip side the tougher species are more resistant to 'casual damage' For instance if the party is traveling on a ship that takes damage the entire crew/passenger list can end up taking damage and the tougher species will generally not need to worry and the weaker, less threatening species may well need to spend character points.
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