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YT-2400 - Two versions of the same ship
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:02 am    Post subject: YT-2400 - Two versions of the same ship Reply with quote

Hey there, I was checking some ships stats when I noticed a disparity concerning the YT-2400. Both the Pirates & Privateers and the Stock Ships books have stats for it, however they are signifficantly different. The Pirates & Privateers version is all around more powerful. Both books were published in the same year, and yet the stats differ in many aspects.

So which of these would you consider the "official" stats for the stock YT-2400?:

(Stock Ships)
YT-2400 Transport
Craft: Corellian YT-2400 Transport
Type: Stock light freighter
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 21 meters
Skill: Space transports: YT-2400
Crew: 2, gunners: 1, skeleton: 1/+10
Crew Skill: Varies widely
Passengers: 6
Cargo Capacity: 150 metric tons
Consumables: 2 months
Cost: 130,000 (new), 32,000 (used)
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x2
Hyperdrive Backup: x12
Nav Computer: Yes
Space: 4
Atmosphere: 480; 800 kmh
Hull: 5D
Shields: 2D
Sensors:
Passive: 10/0D
Scan: 25/1D
Search: 40/2D
Focus: 2/3D
Weapons:
Laser Cannon
Fire Arc: Turret
Crew: 1
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Space Range: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5 km
Damage: 4D


(Pirates & Privateers)
YT-2400 Light Freighter
Craft: Corellian Engineering Corporation YT-2400 Transport
Type: Light freighter
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 21 meters
Skill: Space transports: YT-2400
Crew: 2, skeleton: 1/+10
Crew Skill: Varies widely
Passengers: 4
Cargo Capacity: 100 metric tons
Consumables: 2 months
Cost: 125,000 (new), 45,000 (used)
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x1
Hyperdrive Backup: x10
Nav Computer: Yes
Maneuverability: 1D+2
Space: 6
Atmosphere: 330; 950 kmh
Hull: 5D
Shields: 2D
Sensors:
Passive: 25/1D
Scan: 50/2D
Search: 75/2D+2
Focus: 2/3D
Weapons:
Heavy Double Laser Cannon
Fire Arc: Turret
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 1D+2
Space Range: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5 km
Damage: 5D


PS: I'm noticing there are disparities between these two books in other ships as well, though none seems to be as blatant. So, which book do you think should be taken more "seriously"? I'm thinking it should be the Stock Ships, since it's a book dedicated to those ships, while Privates & Privateers is more a collection of ships to round out a bigger book that's talking about other things.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, both.

We got "New Model" and "Old Model" thing going.

The Old Model (P&P) was when they did the "Wink and a Nod" to Smugglers. Then the Empire went "WTF???" and they put out the "New Model", which is more in line with what the Empire wants in a Freighter, even if it is pushing it a bit.

Probably sold the Empire a bunch of Old Models at a discount to get 'em to allow it anyhow.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stock ships was made later, so maybe the first version was a recall? Problems with backing up in the WC?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also have to take into account, the ships listed in P&P are pirate's swag, so most likely have been upgraded a time or two (or twelve!!!)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:
You also have to take into account, the ships listed in P&P are pirate's swag, so most likely have been upgraded a time or two (or twelve!!!)


Exactly.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way... does anyone have any pics of the YT-2400? I might be using one in a game I'm playing in, and I'd like to be able to get a visual on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Google it! It was in a video game (Shadows of the Empire), and there's *LOTS* of pics available for it.

Here's some I found at SWAG:

http://swagonline.net/view.php?photo_id=2103&screen=0&action=search&keyword=2400&date=&type=search

http://swagonline.net/view.php?photo_id=2104&screen=0&action=search&keyword=2400&date=&type=search

http://swagonline.net/view.php?photo_id=2105&screen=0&action=search&keyword=2400&date=&type=search
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Ray! I've never played the game, and I don't remember if it's in the book or not.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is. It's Dash's ship, the "Outrider".
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, as soon as I actually SAW it, I recognized it. (I looked at them after I posted...)

Now, does memory serve me correctly that the B-wing style cockpit (read: gyroscopic, staying "upright" feature) was an addition that Dash did? As I recall, the stock YT-2400 doesn't have that capability...
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure he added it, ya.

It's a *VERY* complex system, and not likely to be added to something that needs to be as reliable as a Freighter.

At least, unless you're a bunch of Verpines who need to fly around an asteroid field all the time.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya got THAT right! Set a crew of Verpine Techs loose on a ship for awhile and you'll come out with a completely overhauled ship that you just might have to relearn the controls for!

But it'll work a WHOLE lot better, too!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Why is the writing on the controls so small?" "They're not small, they're standard size." "FOR VERPINES! Not all of us have Microscopic vision!!!"
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say both sets of stats are official, and that the stats in Pirates and Privateers is either a modified, or upgunned version for use in more dangerous teritories.
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