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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:26 pm    Post subject: Sith Alchemy Reply with quote

Working on a Sith temple for an adventure. What books have Sith alchemy rules in them?

Idea is the Lord is gone, but the temple and area is populated by the creations and descendents of the acolytes.

Want to work on the creations.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tales of the Jedi page 77 and following.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is worth considering as a larger topic. Very few Force powers allow the ability to impart permanent change or attributes to either living beings or inanimate objects, yet the TotJ Handbook (as well as a sampling of other WEG books) has examples of artifacts that impart permanent Force effects, or of creatures that have been permanently altered from their natural state.

So, what powers would be used to do this, and what ethical limitations should be placed on them? I do think Jedi should have access to at least some of those powers, since the creation of a Jedi Holocron seems to incorporate some transference of the personality of the Jedi who made it, as well as some Force awareness (able to determine whether a potential user is Light or Dark, as well as the ability to gauge their knowledge level).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightsaber construction also uses the force, at least according to I,Jedi. The force can also be used to help shape the crystals used in the lightsaber if you are making your own crystals with a machine. I don't know how 'cannon' I, Jedi is anymore.

We would likely need to come up with new force powers. There are some homebrew force powers on D6holocron that could get us started. Mecha Manipulation comes to mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transfer Force certainly comes to mind as a prerequisite. I've also played with the idea of requiring that crystals of some kind be incorporated into the design of Force artifacts, as there is precedent in the EU for the Force functioning through crystals.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting discussion topic probably better for house rules Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sith alchemy items are an excuse to plagiarize your D&D magic sourcebooks. The only thing thats almost universal with them is they have a penchant for dumping dark side points on you. Why? W̶̶̶e̶̶̶l̶̶̶l̶̶̶ ̶̶̶t̶̶̶o̶̶̶ ̶̶̶k̶̶̶e̶̶̶e̶̶̶p̶̶̶ ̶̶̶y̶̶̶o̶̶̶u̶̶̶r̶̶̶ ̶̶̶p̶̶̶l̶̶̶a̶̶̶y̶̶̶e̶̶̶r̶̶̶s̶̶̶ ̶̶̶f̶̶̶r̶̶̶o̶̶̶m̶̶̶ ̶̶̶c̶̶̶o̶̶̶l̶̶̶l̶̶̶e̶̶̶c̶̶̶t̶̶̶i̶̶̶n̶̶̶g̶̶̶ ̶̶̶t̶̶̶h̶̶̶e̶̶̶m̶̶̶̶̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶f̶u̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶d̶v̶e̶n̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶p̶l̶o̶t̶s̶̶. I mean because they were quenched in the blood of innocent force younglings.

Sith creatures are an excuse to get more use out of all those D&D figs you got gathering dust. Especially owlbears

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/f/fe/Owlbear.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20070317064203

Because come on if thats not something a bored sith lord wouldn't create for giggles i don't what is
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, now, Owlbears AKA Moonkin are awesome when you can play as a Balance Druid in World of Warcraft. There's nothing like calling down moonbeams from the sky to smite your enemies.

On a related topic, I burned out on WoW last November. My main was a balance druid and I loved playing him, but ever since last November, even the thought of logging back on WoW fills me with a nameless dread that defies all human description. Playing WoW is just so much work now. Truth be told, I'm having much more fun editing the SWD6 fanbooks and replaying all the old Star Wars video games now. I guess WoW's loss is Star Wars' gain, huh?

To answer Savar's question, the D20 Dark Side Sourcebook has alot of goodies including Sith Alchemy. It's a D20 book to be sure, but I have good news: I managed to find conversion rules to D6 for the D20 Sourcebooks that didn't get converted by Gry Sarth. Namely, on a website known as The Rebellion, I copied and pasted the D6 conversion rules for the following D20 sourcebooks: Secrets of Naboo, Secrets of Tatooine, The New Jedi Order Sourcebook, Power of the Jedi Sourcebook and The Dark Side Sourcebook. They're all on docfiles in my Google Docs. Just follow the link in my signature to the Public Stuff> Public Star Wars Stuff> D6 Stats Folder> House Rules Miscellaneous folder. You'll find all the above D20 sourcebooks converted to D6 on docfiles that you can easily download. The Dark Side Sourcebook should have everything you need for D6 Sith Alchemy rules. (Alternatively, the direct link to the House Rules/Misc folder is here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0By9UuUWWH6CiVEpLM2lhYnJXVFk )

In fact, feel free to explore the whole Public Star Wars folder for anything you might need. That goes for everyone, not just Savar. That's why I put all that crap there. Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Brain wrote:
Sith alchemy items are an excuse to plagiarize your D&D magic sourcebooks. The only thing thats almost universal with them is they have a penchant for dumping dark side points on you. Why? W̶̶̶e̶̶̶l̶̶̶l̶̶̶ ̶̶̶t̶̶̶o̶̶̶ ̶̶̶k̶̶̶e̶̶̶e̶̶̶p̶̶̶ ̶̶̶y̶̶̶o̶̶̶u̶̶̶r̶̶̶ ̶̶̶p̶̶̶l̶̶̶a̶̶̶y̶̶̶e̶̶̶r̶̶̶s̶̶̶ ̶̶̶f̶̶̶r̶̶̶o̶̶̶m̶̶̶ ̶̶̶c̶̶̶o̶̶̶l̶̶̶l̶̶̶e̶̶̶c̶̶̶t̶̶̶i̶̶̶n̶̶̶g̶̶̶ ̶̶̶t̶̶̶h̶̶̶e̶̶̶m̶̶̶̶̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶f̶u̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶s̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶a̶d̶v̶e̶n̶t̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶p̶l̶o̶t̶s̶̶. I mean because they were quenched in the blood of innocent force younglings.


You can't have a good sith dungeon without some ad&d monsters.. i mean some sith monsters appearing!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sutehp wrote:
Hey, now, Owlbears AKA Moonkin are awesome when you can play as a Balance Druid in World of Warcraft. There's nothing like calling down moonbeams from the sky to smite your enemies.

On a related topic, I burned out on WoW last November. My main was a balance druid and I loved playing him, but ever since last November, even the thought of logging back on WoW fills me with a nameless dread that defies all human description. Playing WoW is just so much work now. Truth be told, I'm having much more fun editing the SWD6 fanbooks and replaying all the old Star Wars video games now. I guess WoW's loss is Star Wars' gain, huh?

To answer Savar's question, the D20 Dark Side Sourcebook has alot of goodies including Sith Alchemy. It's a D20 book to be sure, but I have good news: I managed to find conversion rules to D6 for the D20 Sourcebooks that didn't get converted by Gry Sarth. Namely, on a website known as The Rebellion, I copied and pasted the D6 conversion rules for the following D20 sourcebooks: Secrets of Naboo, Secrets of Tatooine, The New Jedi Order Sourcebook, Power of the Jedi Sourcebook and The Dark Side Sourcebook. They're all on docfiles in my Google Docs. Just follow the link in my signature to the Public Stuff> Public Star Wars Stuff> D6 Stats Folder> House Rules Miscellaneous folder. You'll find all the above D20 sourcebooks converted to D6 on docfiles that you can easily download. The Dark Side Sourcebook should have everything you need for D6 Sith Alchemy rules. (Alternatively, the direct link to the House Rules/Misc folder is here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0By9UuUWWH6CiVEpLM2lhYnJXVFk )

In fact, feel free to explore the whole Public Star Wars folder for anything you might need. That goes for everyone, not just Savar. That's why I put all that crap there. Razz


Vary cool. Thank you.
Now some confusion has been removed. Some of the Sith stuff I was remembering was from my brief run with d20 star wars.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garhkal wrote:


You can't have a good sith dungeon without some ad&d monsters.. i mean some sith monsters appearing!


Definitely need a Terentatek (aka Sith Umber Hulk from Knights of the Old Republic).

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well we already had that sith alchemy dragon thread a while back..
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are also Space Fantasy settings (Warhammer 40,000 is an obvious example) that open the door to "D&D in Space" scenarios. Whether using the Force to create Magic Items or using D&D monster to populate alien worlds or Sith laboratories, the potential is there, and the SWU is certainly big enough to hold them.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a bit off-topic, but it's related to my earlier post: I just logged back onto WoW for the first time in 10 months a week ago. And my boomkin is my "main" again. I put Main in quotes because I'm not going to be doing serious raiding with my guild anytime soon as I'm still burned out on raiding (but the occasional pug raid is still an option). I'm just gonna concentrate on mount collecting and seeing the lore content. I don't need to do the mythic raids for the loot; I just wanna see how the WoW story continues and I can do LFR or pug normal raids for that.

We now return to our regularly scheduled Star Wars programming.
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