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 Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:40 pm Post subject: Ion Cannons: Why not Standard? |
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So, I'm thinking about this, and wondering: Why aren't Ion Cannons standard on non-warships?
For example, let's take a standard freighter... a Ghtroc, a YT-1300, whatever. Civilian model, designed for freight hauling. Why does it have a blaster cannon? Why doesn't it have an Ion Cannon, which ignores shields and disables ships?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Ion Cannons: Why not Standard? |
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| MrNexx wrote: | So, I'm thinking about this, and wondering: Why aren't Ion Cannons standard on non-warships?
For example, let's take a standard freighter... a Ghtroc, a YT-1300, whatever. Civilian model, designed for freight hauling. Why does it have a blaster cannon? Why doesn't it have an Ion Cannon, which ignores shields and disables ships? |
Ion cannons may be restricted weaponry because they makes piracy easier. |
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Good question. Maybe ion cannons are impractical and/or harder to build than standard laser? Or maybe there's some sort of legal ordinance or regulation forbidding ion cannons to civilians?
Actually, that makes sense now that I think about it. Ion cannons are meant to disable ships in advance of capture/boarding. That's not something a government would want civilians to do, because it's y'know, piracy. In that view, laser cannons (lethal but much less practical for capturing a ship) are a perfectly reasonable alternative for self-defense.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Ion Cannons: Why not Standard? |
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| ForbinProject wrote: | | MrNexx wrote: | So, I'm thinking about this, and wondering: Why aren't Ion Cannons standard on non-warships?
For example, let's take a standard freighter... a Ghtroc, a YT-1300, whatever. Civilian model, designed for freight hauling. Why does it have a blaster cannon? Why doesn't it have an Ion Cannon, which ignores shields and disables ships? |
Ion cannons may be restricted weaponry because they makes piracy easier. |
This. IMO cause OF their shield ignoring and shutting down of targets, i feel they are MORE controlled than blaster/laser cannons..
However, on say a personal ship converted into a mobile medical ship, i can easily see getting permission for ion cannons, to PREVENT stealing of the bacta onboard.
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| If I recall correctly, the blaster cannon was to 'destroy navigational hazards', i.e. shooting at asteroids and so on. An ion cannon would be spectacularly unsuited for blasting asteroids. |
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Har. Forbin and I had the same thought, but he posted right before I did. Good show, old chap! 8)
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| Zarn wrote: | | If I recall correctly, the blaster cannon was to 'destroy navigational hazards', i.e. shooting at asteroids and so on. An ion cannon would be spectacularly unsuited for blasting asteroids. |
And in some cases with say living ships, ion cannons may not even DO anything to them..!!
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| garhkal wrote: | | Zarn wrote: | | If I recall correctly, the blaster cannon was to 'destroy navigational hazards', i.e. shooting at asteroids and so on. An ion cannon would be spectacularly unsuited for blasting asteroids. |
And in some cases with say living ships, ion cannons may not even DO anything to them..!! |
Huh, is that part of Legends continuity, that ion cannons couldn't affect Yuuzhan Vong ships? I don't remember seeing anything like that in the New Jedi Order Sourcebook....
It would be another reason why the Vong invasion was so devastating if true.
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See, I would figure their non-lethality would be a plus... you don't necessarily want civilians blowing up the ships that try to take them into custody... but anti-asteroid makes sense.
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| Sutehp wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | Zarn wrote: | | If I recall correctly, the blaster cannon was to 'destroy navigational hazards', i.e. shooting at asteroids and so on. An ion cannon would be spectacularly unsuited for blasting asteroids. |
And in some cases with say living ships, ion cannons may not even DO anything to them..!! |
Huh, is that part of Legends continuity, that ion cannons couldn't affect Yuuzhan Vong ships? I don't remember seeing anything like that in the New Jedi Order Sourcebook....
It would be another reason why the Vong invasion was so devastating if true. |
One of the alien species our sparks group developed had living ships that had 'abalitive armor', but were totally impervious to ion canon fire.. IIRC those living ships created by the planet Zomoa Sekot were also unaffected by ion fire...
As to the vong ships, i see it as similar.. Since they are animals, and its been pushed by many here ion doesn't affect living things, then it would stand to reason it wouldn't affect their ships..
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| garhkal wrote: | | Sutehp wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | Zarn wrote: | | If I recall correctly, the blaster cannon was to 'destroy navigational hazards', i.e. shooting at asteroids and so on. An ion cannon would be spectacularly unsuited for blasting asteroids. |
And in some cases with say living ships, ion cannons may not even DO anything to them..!! |
Huh, is that part of Legends continuity, that ion cannons couldn't affect Yuuzhan Vong ships? I don't remember seeing anything like that in the New Jedi Order Sourcebook....
It would be another reason why the Vong invasion was so devastating if true. |
One of the alien species our sparks group developed had living ships that had 'abalitive armor', but were totally impervious to ion canon fire.. IIRC those living ships created by the planet Zomoa Sekot were also unaffected by ion fire...
As to the vong ships, i see it as similar.. Since they are animals, and its been pushed by many here ion doesn't affect living things, then it would stand to reason it wouldn't affect their ships. |
Considering that Zonama Sekot and the Yuuzhan Vong came from the same place and are genetically related, it makes sense. If ion weapons couldn't affect Sekot bio-ships, then it stands to reason that they wouldn't affect Vong ships either.
Damn, that's impressive.
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I ported over an idea from the X-Wing PC game for ion canon. Specifically, rather than simply ignoring shields, they are particularly good at bringing shields down. In game terms, just roll ion damage against just the Shield dice, then treat the Shield dice as Cover for breakthrough damage purposes.
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| Sutehp wrote: |
Considering that Zonama Sekot and the Yuuzhan Vong came from the same place and are genetically related, it makes sense. If ion weapons couldn't affect Sekot bio-ships, then it stands to reason that they wouldn't affect Vong ships either.
d*mn, that's impressive. |
Don't go getting all excited yet. My thoughts on the Zoma sekot ships are not canon, and where i THOUGHT i saw it at, i didn't find corroboration unfortunately..
BUT to me it still makes sense.
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| garhkal wrote: | | Sutehp wrote: |
Considering that Zonama Sekot and the Yuuzhan Vong came from the same place and are genetically related, it makes sense. If ion weapons couldn't affect Sekot bio-ships, then it stands to reason that they wouldn't affect Vong ships either.
d*mn, that's impressive. |
Don't go getting all excited yet. My thoughts on the Zoma sekot ships are not canon, and where i THOUGHT i saw it at, i didn't find corroboration unfortunately..
BUT to me it still makes sense. |
Duly noted.
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